Another installment in the series of dialogues with Benjamin Life. I’m finding quicker access to interesting material when I am actually engaging a person instead of a computer. I hope any computers out there aren’t offended.
Benjamin Life
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What it means to be lost in abstraction, what it means to be hermetically sealed world of digital reflections
Resuscitating and reclaiming leadership
Transforming anger into awakening understanding
The evolution of masculinity and collective healing
What is true health?
Myth and placemaking
The nature of evil
The relationship between essence and reproduction (ala Derrida, Foucault, Walter Benjamin)
Charles Eisenstein
We're in the midst of a house move right now. I don't have a lot of accumulations, somehow, but I was looking through a box that was leftover from my last house move. It had some photographs from when my eldest son Philip was a little baby. And Stella and I were looking through some of these pictures, and she said, “These are so precious. These are treasures.”
I do like taking them out and looking at them every five years or so. But it struck me that when I do look at them, I often just feel a lot of sadness. It brings up all of the things that I missed out on in life and was too preoccupied to really enjoy, like my kids' childhood. I have a lot of grief and regret around it, and I could easily see how photographs and memories that are anchored by other physical objects could become a quagmire where I get stuck in the past because I have not fully processed some of these emotions, but just moved on in the rush and press of life.
Maybe this is one of the causes of dementia. It happens with a certain number of old people that they get lost in the past. But, they may be just the most noticable example of something that happens to almost everybody.
The past has been made real in a tangible way for me to look at, real in a way that our brains’ never had before the advent of photography. There you are looking at your child as he looked 25 years ago, looking at your partner as she looked 10 years ago, and that's the evidence to your eyes right there, that this person looks like this or this person is a child. You know, conceptually, the child has grown up, but here your eyes are also telling you something very different. On some pre-rational level, it's really confusing. The same confusion also comes when people surround themselves with precious objects. It's not just precious photos, but precious heirlooms: here's the baby blanket that Jimmy used when he was little. Here are all these things that make it hard to move on and that contribute to the illusion that the past is still here, and that maybe you can actually hold on to it.
In a way it is true — you can hold on to the past in a way that you couldn't before, with the ability to reproduce images. All the more if you go back to nomadic times, when you really couldn't hold on to anything. Life then was much more in the reality of a constant present.
So we now have a media environment that is full of frozen images — or even more potent, videos, with sound and image and motion all together. Every time you look at that, deep circuits in your brain say, “This is real, this is happening.” But it isn't happening. So we get stuck in this feedback loop where the present is fed by the past, but the past looks like it is still present. It's a kind of a psychic trap.
Now, I'm not standing up on a soapbox decrying this development. But I think it does help us to be aware of the insidious spell that images exert over us. They facilitate a much higher degree of delusion than would be possible if we only had stories and memories to rely on. Because those change. My memories of my children when they were little guys, the memories change as I change, and, to some extent, I rewrite the past in correspondence with who I am becoming. Aspects of the past that had been invisible at the time that I hadn't noticed come into my awareness. Maybe these photographs can actually help that. They can break through the illusions I have about the past.
The power of the photograph, of the image politically, has been to pierce illusions. I'm thinking of the photographs of the war crimes in Vietnam, or the events of Tiananmen Square, that said to us, here's what's really happening. But today with the ability to fake these images, and even to fake videos, that function of piercing illusion is lost. And images have become even more fake, even more than just through the ability to select them and to frame them. They already were no longer a reliable lifeline to reality, outside of our stories and perceptions, but even more now, with the ability to fake them, and to alter them through seamless technologies of manipulation. Instead of anchoring us to objective reality outside of our delusions, they deepen the delusions even more. And we risk as a society getting completely lost in manufactured realities that are not actually reality. They are an illusion. But the more lost we get in them, the more real they seem, except for some quiet and increasingly desperate voices that summon us back to the body, to the earth, to life instead of its simulations. And I guess, to just circle back to the topic of dementia, one way to look at it is living in the internal simulation of reality that has drifted further and further away from what's really real.
Benjamin Life
This is really touching home for me in a lot of dimensions. My father has Parkinson's disease and has started to have increased hallucinations. And it's been very challenging to watch that internal projection of reality gradually take over more and more of his experience and watch the effect that that has on other people. Then another dimension is I studied to become a photojournalist when I was in college, and I studied under a relatively famous war photographer. He brought us to Burma on a photojournalism immersion trip. And it was actually quite disturbing to me to see behind the lens of how these dominant narratives are constructed. Because this was a person who had zero context of relationship with a place, very much this colonial insertion of a lens, of a viewpoint. And to see how those images were constructed: Basically, someone comes in with a perspective, they find a local fixer that they can pay a relatively high salary based on local wages. And that fixer helps them gain access to the thing that they're trying to document based on their pre-existing biases and frames. They see it through the lens that they've brought into that particular place. And then it's those images that get put through the mass media reproduction machine. And that is what creates the global narrative of what's happening there. But it's whole cloth, from beginning to end, completely disconnected and only represents a biased, low-context interpretation. And the way that it's framed actually creates the dominant narrative because the photo is seen as real even though it's the subjective product of a photojournalist. And so I realized that I couldn't in good faith be a photojournalist, because I knew that my lens would never be sufficient to actually provide the context required to help people understand other human beings' lived experiences.
Charless Eisenstein
Yeah. In fact, the perception that a photographic image is objective is part of the insidious spell that it casts. Because your eyes are saying, Oh, I'm seeing this. But it's actually not some random glimpse into another place that you're seeing. It's a very highly curated and managed Potemkin village version, deliberately cast in some version of what is actually there. And this has been recognized now for a century as the power of the photographs, the power of the photograph as propaganda.
I want to return to Parkinson's disease, and your father's episodes of delusion. I'm not sure if that's actually a bad thing. Thinking of my own unprocessed grief that is brought up when I look at these old photographs, maybe the last phase of life is actually a time when when the imperative of the soul to process and integrate everything becomes so overwhelming that you withdraw from your current environment and revisit and process again and again and again all of these episodes from the past and feel all of the things that you didn't get a chance to feel back then because you were distracted or addicted or preoccupied. And now that your creative functions in the world are diminishing, it’s time to look at all of those things again.
So we might not even want to call it dementia. It could be another function of the brain coming to the fore, another function of the mind whose time has come. But I don't know. I don't like being the word police, so we'll call it dementia. Maybe now you get to experience not just the grief, but the joy. These people living in the past are reliving memories that are 50, 70 years old. They might not even recognize the people around them right now or they might mistake them for people that they knew a long time ago. They might think that their spouse is still alive. They might think their parents are still alive. They might talk about friends who have been dead for 20 years. All of this, that we see as a pathology, could be really the healthy functioning of the soul as a kind of a preparation for the afterlife in which, according to many accounts, we spend a lot of time reviewing the lives that we have lived, consulting with spirit guides or our soul group about the choices that we made, the extent to which we accomplished the purpose of our incarnation, what we learned and what we didn't learn and might need to practice again. This whole process of review and integration can start before death, as one retreats from incarnation. This retreat certainly happens in old age, but it can also happen episodically throughout life. And that may be why people who meditate have a lower rate of dementia. Because, they're accomplishing some of this review process in meditation.
Benjamin Life
In the case of my father, the hallucinations seem to be deeply subconscious, symbolic representations of different things that have haunted him throughout his life. And so they're not really the past so much as deep archetypal unconscious symbols that he is experiencing as physicalized hallucinations.
Charles Eisenstein
And then that could also be a way to process some of the things that maybe he was too busy to really go into. I don't necessarily want to psychoanalyze your father, but the point is that what we see normally as illness or pathology might actually be an expression of health. The soul has its own agenda. Maybe we don't hold someone like your father in the story of a sick person who needs to be medicated or needs to be fixed.
Two years ago we brought my mother home to live with us. She had been in a perpetual lockdown for the nearly a year in an assisted living facility. It had been a loving place for my mother until the world was gripped by the ‘pandemic’ and then became a prison in the name of her safety. At the age of 97 my Mom suffered from dementia, and although remarkably functional for her age she would tend to get stuck in thoughts that were circular in nature. And the key word here is ‘stuck’, in thoughts disconnected from reality, caught in a loop of thinking from which she is has difficulty escaping. She would attempt to resolve this narrow band of thought from within the thought or the resulting series of thoughts, which all related back to the primary delusion.
Looking closer at what is considered dementia, it may manifest as degenerative brain function, but primarily, it is a long standing state of mind, not the brain, founded in a deep sense of limitation, lack and the fear of death, the obsessive or fixated thought about an imaginary separate self. If we zoom out on the life of someone suffering from this so-called ‘dementia’, what we find, it’s actually not the source of this circular, closed loop of thinking and suffering, it is the result. It is the outcome a lifetime of a living within limited construct of thinking and acting, like a spider who spins its web and takes up residence in it. With this construct, we may seem to be capable of large and intricate webs, worlds, comprising what is believed to be ‘the world’, but they exist only as fragments within fragments of mind or overlays of mind that represent a simulated, synthetic existence. Our suffering is born of this closed loop thought form.
Definition of closed loop: an automatic control system in which an operation, process, or mechanism is regulated by feedback [from within the closed loop]. This ‘inside’ thought world manifests as an independently existing ‘outside’ world, but all within the same self-referential world or loop. Much like the ‘autophagous loop’ of AI which leads ultimately to nonsense and madness.
The imaginary pandemic is a perfect example of an obsessive closed loop, appearing to manifest ‘outside’ us, in our culture, world, and endlessly propagated in ‘the news’, but all part of projected thought, a lie replicating itself. This world, this lie, has no independent existence or reality outside of the imaginary separate self that imagines it.
I am 76. I have spent at least 50 years of that time, working deeply within. It has prepared me to meet now, ever deeper elements of my soul work that emerge as the body delivers what remains unloved. Now, that I have more capacity to do that, the more hidden layers feel safe to reveal themselves. It's humbling and profound to admit them. And, in particular to hold them as unloved parts. Without this consciousness, I can see why many aging people become terrified and disoriented with what has remained unattended within and want to dissociate even more because they fear becoming identified with what is emerging, rather than be able to identify it and hold it. Especially when the body somatizes what is asking for attention. For me, it is presently coming through an increasing sense of insecurity in my mobility. Ah....to love that one more deeply, the one in me wounded in her insecurity. To admit that one and to have her held by the one who is confident, secure and established in many ways!!!! To not be able to do that certainly tempts insanity in a world that deifies youth filled abilities!!!