First, a lot of people asked for an audio version of the Contact Tour interview on UFOs and planetcide. Here it is: I will be speaking in person on July 1, 7:00 PM at the Shea Theatre in Turners Falls, MA. Topic: How the environmental movement can find its way again. It’s going to be a high-energy event. I always say something new at in-person events. I just don’t know what it will be until I get there.
Loved the talk with Aubrey Marcus. Quite nuanced and provided an opportunity to flesh out many aspects of finding one's way regarding holding/supporting RFK Jr.'s campaign. Keep up the good work and thank you.
You have the gift of bringing the hidden sociological context into the light and for people who are ripe for your insights you send us whirling away into new ways of considering how we are living and creating. I am profoundly grateful for your bold existence at this time.
I woke up with the thought that with the focus on the environment and the system, there is still this unaddressed issue with human beings about wars, conflicts, excluding peoples which John addressed as the good plant, bad plant. When I think about how Donald Trump is vilified in totalia I wonder about his capacity to build a relationship with Putin that possibly may have prevented the war in Ukraine if he had been us leader at that time. Until we address our relationship to things such as disease, weeds, pests, people we call bad, and be prepared to consider another perspective of why they are behaving in the way they are whatever we do as a globe will simply continue on repeating itself.
Something that has concerned me for many years is how it can actually work for all of us to transition to meaningful work. What I see happening around me is that, in an attempt to find a meaningful and heartfelt way of earning a living, many of my friends and acquaintances have developed beautiful offerings and services from their inherent skills. And they offer them for sale. If I had unlimited money and time I would partake in most of them. There is a LOT of great stuff out there. The problem is I, as most of us, don’t. And the things they are offering are usually ones I don’t really need. What ends up happening seems to be a commodification of what was once community and friendship. What would be people just getting together and helping one another has become a transaction. And I get it, we all want to earn a living doing what we care about and are good at. I just don’t understand how it can work. How can things really change rather than everything just become a product?
I hope in advising him you've shared how embarrassing it was for him to have deleted his tweet supporting Roger Waters.
Since I've seen nothing more from you besides a comment acknowledging that people like me are disappointed, it's difficult not to make the assumption that it is exactly what it looked like: bowing the knee to pressure from the Israeli lobby who claim anti-Israel foreign policy = anti-Semitism.
For a man who has been painted with smears for most of his professional life, and who appears to be incredibly honest, why was he so dishonest in this instance?
I think the most disappointing aspect was his original tweet calling Roger Waters a global hero *is* how he feels, but he deleted it anyway.
Oh how I wish I had one human being on the face of the earth with whom I could talk about these things. I am not lonely for people because I just don't get on with 99% of them, but I am lonely for people who "get it" and are willing to share what they get with me.
This talk addresses something that has been bothering me about myself and about the rest of humanity. I have always had faith that humanity, given the opportunity, can rise above all that nasty stuff like violence and greed, and so is, in some way, worthy. But I knew I was lying to myself and have been aware of that fundamental lie for many many years. Covid forced me to face up to it in its totality, that humanity cannot operate outside the story they have crafted around themselves, and so cannot absorb any information that does not fit into that story. No amount of logic, education, proof, is going to penetrate a consciousness that cannot make space for it.
And that applies to me too. I can make space for almost everything thrown at us, but I have not been able to make space for a core belief that humanity is unworthy in some way. So for me no amount of logic, education, proof was able to penetrate my story that humanity is essentially OK, and anything not quite right can be fixed from within our culture, by reforming education, politics, health care etc. Humanity is not OK and cannot be fixed by reforming current institutions, because the corruption of those institutions is based on the human being embedded in a very nasty story from which they cannot escape. But it is not enough for me to just say those words. My core belief in humanity is the core of how I think about my own life and how I organise my life. Without that core belief, my reality crumbles. There is nothing left. That is what I have been going through for the last 3 years. My reality is shattered, and I have to think through, from scratch, how to relate to the human beings and the human culture around me, from which I am now entirely alienated, with my awareness living (I think) totally outside their story. Can I rebuild a sense that humanity is worthy using different parameters? Well yes, I can, but if I do, what do I have to change in the way I live my life and relate (or don't) to most human beings, that successfully crosses that apparently impenetrable barrier between me and them. Is there a role I can play in the coming changes, other than turning away and meditating a lot, which I see as abdication, but is that another belief that I have to void, and if so, replace it with what? Building a new life based on a new core paradigm is not as easy as just saying the words.
I am an occultist. I do believe that human beings including myself have faculties we have not yet learned to use, or use with facility. One of those faculties does involve creating life stories within which we can live in emotional comfort. Spiritual leaders and gurus do this all the time, they craft a story that some love so much they are willing to immerse themselves totally in that story (look up the concept of group mind) and disengage from the rest of humanity that lives outside that story. Klauss Schwabb is very successfully creating a new story based on technocracy, and millions world wide are falling into it and finding comfort. Can those of us who are sufficiently alienated from the mainstream story and the Klauss Schwabb story, build a new story that others want to join? Can we work with the occult laws that would allow it to happen? Would it be ethical to do so if we could, as it would involve appealing to emotions and need for comfort rather than logic? Do I, with my poor people skills, have any role to play in this? Or am I too far outside to have any relevance? Is my time up?
I feel the same regarding humanity. Recently I read an article on how there seems to be a declining count of sperm in human beings. The article was all about "and what if humanity dies out because of it? Wouldn't that be terrible?" and I was thinking "Would that be so bad? Maybe I would like that."
And ever since then, I kept asking myself, if there was a way to make that happen: A peaceful end to humanity, not by war or any desaster, just peaceful end where there are no children anymore... would I chose that? And I can't say.
Wow I agree with you about the capacity to build another narrative about humanity within and then live it. Maybe it's moving from that good/bad paradigm to something more complex which requires emotional and spiritual maturity not to react and exclude a viewpoint that seems oppositional. Love your thinking...and the clarity of the link between myself and the wider culture
Unfortunately, as soon as the conversation turned to UFOs I turned off.
Until the supposed extraterrestrials "reveal" their existence and "purpose" (and probably not even then), they have absolutely no bearing on OUR existence or a planet under attack from all-too-real and all-too-human masters of the Universe. No more than "pie in the sky", the idea that higher, far more enlightened beings will someday come down to save us from ourselves - a sort of a second-rate Second Coming - is an obvious substitute for the disappointed promises of organized religion. And why assume a technologically more advanced species would turn out to be any more benevolent than we were when a more technologically advanced earthly civilization encountered another less advanced? Only because one WANTS them also to be more spiritually advanced? This is nothing more than wishful/magical thinking, in my view.
Either the congressional hearings into UFOs are a put-up job intended to inject even more confusion into the minds of a population whose already limited capacity for thinking was up-ended by "COVID", a diversion from the current lamentable state of the planet, or else the set-up for a faked attack from outer space ("War of the Worlds II" - the opposite of the cuddly vision of ETs), which would naturally require another massive wealth transfer to the billionaire owners of the digital-financial complex, even more massive defense spending than Ukraine and perhaps a moon base (!), and the surveillance from space of everything and everyone crawling on the planet. Or is it merely another in the series of psychic epidemics (woke, trans, Climate...) that afflict us? After the pummeling of lies and absurdities we received during the fake pandemic, it seems most people will believe just about anything as long as it has been given false authority by government, "the expert" and mainstream media. But why some of us not taken in by those other dubious narratives are not dubious of this one is beyond my ken.
I'm very inspired and grateful for the amazing talks with aubrey marcus and john kempf (the third conversation about UFOs is still in the queue...) and I enjoy the feeling of being confirmed in my "old" belief that in fact we, the human species, are meant to make live and the world more beautiful and richer (instead of: mother nature would be better much off without us...). this is what I have been (and still am) trying to communicate as often as possible to many of my friends (and others) who are engaged in climate and/or ecology-minded movements als well as some farmers/gardeners. with your conversations I now understand this "fact" and belief even deeper and better myself. inside me there is now a clear and huge: YES! this is what we are meant for and how we can find back (and forward) again to our true "purpose". we are the creators of the more beautiful world, and it's all a question of belonging, trusting and relating. highly and deeply. this is also what's happening now with your advising the RFK jr.'s campaing and your sanity-project. there is so much power and light in it! radiating till europe (i.e. switzerland). thank you so much, charles and aubrey and john!
An unschooled child, living on a small family farm. His birthday party is the same day and he said, “oh no, will people not come to my party because Charles Eisenstein is in town? Ha
Loved the talk with Aubrey Marcus. Quite nuanced and provided an opportunity to flesh out many aspects of finding one's way regarding holding/supporting RFK Jr.'s campaign. Keep up the good work and thank you.
You have the gift of bringing the hidden sociological context into the light and for people who are ripe for your insights you send us whirling away into new ways of considering how we are living and creating. I am profoundly grateful for your bold existence at this time.
I woke up with the thought that with the focus on the environment and the system, there is still this unaddressed issue with human beings about wars, conflicts, excluding peoples which John addressed as the good plant, bad plant. When I think about how Donald Trump is vilified in totalia I wonder about his capacity to build a relationship with Putin that possibly may have prevented the war in Ukraine if he had been us leader at that time. Until we address our relationship to things such as disease, weeds, pests, people we call bad, and be prepared to consider another perspective of why they are behaving in the way they are whatever we do as a globe will simply continue on repeating itself.
Something that has concerned me for many years is how it can actually work for all of us to transition to meaningful work. What I see happening around me is that, in an attempt to find a meaningful and heartfelt way of earning a living, many of my friends and acquaintances have developed beautiful offerings and services from their inherent skills. And they offer them for sale. If I had unlimited money and time I would partake in most of them. There is a LOT of great stuff out there. The problem is I, as most of us, don’t. And the things they are offering are usually ones I don’t really need. What ends up happening seems to be a commodification of what was once community and friendship. What would be people just getting together and helping one another has become a transaction. And I get it, we all want to earn a living doing what we care about and are good at. I just don’t understand how it can work. How can things really change rather than everything just become a product?
I hope in advising him you've shared how embarrassing it was for him to have deleted his tweet supporting Roger Waters.
Since I've seen nothing more from you besides a comment acknowledging that people like me are disappointed, it's difficult not to make the assumption that it is exactly what it looked like: bowing the knee to pressure from the Israeli lobby who claim anti-Israel foreign policy = anti-Semitism.
For a man who has been painted with smears for most of his professional life, and who appears to be incredibly honest, why was he so dishonest in this instance?
I think the most disappointing aspect was his original tweet calling Roger Waters a global hero *is* how he feels, but he deleted it anyway.
Dear Charles I am interested to hear your view on RFK's Jr's recent defence of Israel in relation to Palestine. Raymond
Same.
Oh how I wish I had one human being on the face of the earth with whom I could talk about these things. I am not lonely for people because I just don't get on with 99% of them, but I am lonely for people who "get it" and are willing to share what they get with me.
This talk addresses something that has been bothering me about myself and about the rest of humanity. I have always had faith that humanity, given the opportunity, can rise above all that nasty stuff like violence and greed, and so is, in some way, worthy. But I knew I was lying to myself and have been aware of that fundamental lie for many many years. Covid forced me to face up to it in its totality, that humanity cannot operate outside the story they have crafted around themselves, and so cannot absorb any information that does not fit into that story. No amount of logic, education, proof, is going to penetrate a consciousness that cannot make space for it.
And that applies to me too. I can make space for almost everything thrown at us, but I have not been able to make space for a core belief that humanity is unworthy in some way. So for me no amount of logic, education, proof was able to penetrate my story that humanity is essentially OK, and anything not quite right can be fixed from within our culture, by reforming education, politics, health care etc. Humanity is not OK and cannot be fixed by reforming current institutions, because the corruption of those institutions is based on the human being embedded in a very nasty story from which they cannot escape. But it is not enough for me to just say those words. My core belief in humanity is the core of how I think about my own life and how I organise my life. Without that core belief, my reality crumbles. There is nothing left. That is what I have been going through for the last 3 years. My reality is shattered, and I have to think through, from scratch, how to relate to the human beings and the human culture around me, from which I am now entirely alienated, with my awareness living (I think) totally outside their story. Can I rebuild a sense that humanity is worthy using different parameters? Well yes, I can, but if I do, what do I have to change in the way I live my life and relate (or don't) to most human beings, that successfully crosses that apparently impenetrable barrier between me and them. Is there a role I can play in the coming changes, other than turning away and meditating a lot, which I see as abdication, but is that another belief that I have to void, and if so, replace it with what? Building a new life based on a new core paradigm is not as easy as just saying the words.
I am an occultist. I do believe that human beings including myself have faculties we have not yet learned to use, or use with facility. One of those faculties does involve creating life stories within which we can live in emotional comfort. Spiritual leaders and gurus do this all the time, they craft a story that some love so much they are willing to immerse themselves totally in that story (look up the concept of group mind) and disengage from the rest of humanity that lives outside that story. Klauss Schwabb is very successfully creating a new story based on technocracy, and millions world wide are falling into it and finding comfort. Can those of us who are sufficiently alienated from the mainstream story and the Klauss Schwabb story, build a new story that others want to join? Can we work with the occult laws that would allow it to happen? Would it be ethical to do so if we could, as it would involve appealing to emotions and need for comfort rather than logic? Do I, with my poor people skills, have any role to play in this? Or am I too far outside to have any relevance? Is my time up?
I have no bloody idea.
I feel the same regarding humanity. Recently I read an article on how there seems to be a declining count of sperm in human beings. The article was all about "and what if humanity dies out because of it? Wouldn't that be terrible?" and I was thinking "Would that be so bad? Maybe I would like that."
And ever since then, I kept asking myself, if there was a way to make that happen: A peaceful end to humanity, not by war or any desaster, just peaceful end where there are no children anymore... would I chose that? And I can't say.
Wow I agree with you about the capacity to build another narrative about humanity within and then live it. Maybe it's moving from that good/bad paradigm to something more complex which requires emotional and spiritual maturity not to react and exclude a viewpoint that seems oppositional. Love your thinking...and the clarity of the link between myself and the wider culture
I really enjoyed the interview with John Kempf. I never knew that I was so aligned with the Amish worldview. 🤔
Yes. All againstness IS a lost cause. WE ARE THE ONE(S).
Unfortunately, as soon as the conversation turned to UFOs I turned off.
Until the supposed extraterrestrials "reveal" their existence and "purpose" (and probably not even then), they have absolutely no bearing on OUR existence or a planet under attack from all-too-real and all-too-human masters of the Universe. No more than "pie in the sky", the idea that higher, far more enlightened beings will someday come down to save us from ourselves - a sort of a second-rate Second Coming - is an obvious substitute for the disappointed promises of organized religion. And why assume a technologically more advanced species would turn out to be any more benevolent than we were when a more technologically advanced earthly civilization encountered another less advanced? Only because one WANTS them also to be more spiritually advanced? This is nothing more than wishful/magical thinking, in my view.
Either the congressional hearings into UFOs are a put-up job intended to inject even more confusion into the minds of a population whose already limited capacity for thinking was up-ended by "COVID", a diversion from the current lamentable state of the planet, or else the set-up for a faked attack from outer space ("War of the Worlds II" - the opposite of the cuddly vision of ETs), which would naturally require another massive wealth transfer to the billionaire owners of the digital-financial complex, even more massive defense spending than Ukraine and perhaps a moon base (!), and the surveillance from space of everything and everyone crawling on the planet. Or is it merely another in the series of psychic epidemics (woke, trans, Climate...) that afflict us? After the pummeling of lies and absurdities we received during the fake pandemic, it seems most people will believe just about anything as long as it has been given false authority by government, "the expert" and mainstream media. But why some of us not taken in by those other dubious narratives are not dubious of this one is beyond my ken.
Nucl-E-ar. Please. :{
Even RFK, Jr. says "nucular" - that makes me actually wonder about him.
Otherwise, yes & yes to this whole convo.
Good reminders, Charles, re: our collective power vs. our collective consciousness of victimhood.
Nucl-E-ar. Please. :{
Even RFK, Jr. says "nucular" - that makes me actually wonder about him.
Otherwise, yes & yes to this whole convo.
Good reminders, Charles, re: our collective power vs. our collective consciousness of victimhood.
I'm very inspired and grateful for the amazing talks with aubrey marcus and john kempf (the third conversation about UFOs is still in the queue...) and I enjoy the feeling of being confirmed in my "old" belief that in fact we, the human species, are meant to make live and the world more beautiful and richer (instead of: mother nature would be better much off without us...). this is what I have been (and still am) trying to communicate as often as possible to many of my friends (and others) who are engaged in climate and/or ecology-minded movements als well as some farmers/gardeners. with your conversations I now understand this "fact" and belief even deeper and better myself. inside me there is now a clear and huge: YES! this is what we are meant for and how we can find back (and forward) again to our true "purpose". we are the creators of the more beautiful world, and it's all a question of belonging, trusting and relating. highly and deeply. this is also what's happening now with your advising the RFK jr.'s campaing and your sanity-project. there is so much power and light in it! radiating till europe (i.e. switzerland). thank you so much, charles and aubrey and john!
hey good people, it's worth paying attention to the connections https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvRicYbX_CU
Thank you. Everyone who listens to Charles should watch this.
Yay, a talk in my neck of the woods!
Do you think your talk at the Shea would be a good fit at all for a ten year old child?
An unschooled child, living on a small family farm. His birthday party is the same day and he said, “oh no, will people not come to my party because Charles Eisenstein is in town? Ha