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Sophie Rixe's avatar

Is it a scam?! I don’t recognize you anymore Charles. Honestly listen to the course and you’ll understand. WTH? With fear based content we are far from creating the most beautiful world our heart knows is possible. What’s going on!

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Jamie wrate's avatar

Charles is apparently a sucker for scammers. He's supporting the arch grifter of our age.

Erin Q.'s avatar

Yep. Guru vibe and marketing for the course both raised red flags for me.

Lottie's avatar

Hey Chuck, who the hell is Dr. Clint and why should I waste my time and maybe money other than you say so. Sure seems like weirdo guru behavior. But hey, maybe you'll get to be the subject of another (3rd? 4th?) episode of the Conspirituality podcast by continuing to act like this. Sad what you've become. Hope you snap out of it someday.

Craig Neal's avatar

BTW, Trump and RFkjr. are teaming up this evening. for Make America Healthy Again.https://usa24townhall.com/join-oct-8?fbclid=IwY2xjawFxOrlleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHSdaM1G-vVakOMi1y5BLMdxuD9Sfm_dI6e1XDxwjFBqpIHOJtbiLuU-mcA_aem_bZySUvhohQgBT_BN-NvO-w

I find it unbelievable that RFK believes T will keep his word on creating a cabinet level role for him to take on the corporate/pharma industry.

Jamie wrate's avatar

Agreed. It's absolute fantasy. Trump is the exemplar of extractative, narcisstic, dominator culture. He's using RFK to seduce naive hippies and will toss him away like a used diaper.

Lottie's avatar

Charles still needs to answer the hard questions about his financial stake in this whole charade.

Petra Rosemarie's avatar

I don’t think he owns us an „answer”. He explained himself. He is free to do what he has to do. Who are you to demand an account from him!? What do you know about his financial stake? What do you really know? Everything speculative.

No, I don’t get paid for writing this

Lottie's avatar

Aw gheez you didn't even ask what it's like to be me

e.'s avatar

who are you

a nice person

or a nasty one...

Felicia's avatar

I'm glad I never signed up as a PAID subscriber, Charley would have given it to Shrump.

Jamie wrate's avatar

Indeed. It's obscene. Gaslighting himself for money.

Petra Rosemarie's avatar

What a shrill sound! It’s obscene what you assume of him

SAMO's avatar

Petra, why would you not want financial accountability for anyone with influence in the public forum? Otherwise it would be impossible to "follow the money."

Jamie wrate's avatar

Why do you think he's backing the racist, misogynistic maga movement which will desecrate the natural world? Gone insane?

e.'s avatar

oh my God

you are so judgmental...

annaroo1021's avatar

It says rescheduled due to H. Milton

Ben's avatar

Ive signed up for the course.. It worked for free.. Im. Listening to the first call.. You need to click through some of the opening videos untill you get to it. Ive only listened for half an hour and there have been a number of highly interesting stories and some some home remedies for things such as extreme fear and stomach aches.. Its very interesting so far and I will continue listening. If I hear the medicine story Charles mentioned Ill get back to this chat.

Ben's avatar

So I listened to the whole call. I think its definitely worth while. There were several stories of rather "miraculous" healings through these simple home remedies, any of them could be called medicine stories.

Watersnake's avatar

So much contention in the comments. It’s hard to read but healing is achieved by being present to the wounds. I have no answers or assertions to offer. May each of us find our highest intention and live it fully so our world can be healed.

Felicia's avatar

That's because people and forums such as this gave us a place to feel Spiritually aligned with others. I think Charles is on the other side of the wall these days. I feel betrayed and bewildered.

Jamie wrate's avatar

Healing is also achieved by not backing a racist, misogynistic movement which will desecrate the natural world.

e.'s avatar

you are judgmental

and blind

actually

Jamie wrate's avatar

E. You support a rapist. A rapist. An obvious grifter. A malignant narcissist. Your judgement means nothing to me. Your compass is fucked. . A negative comment from you is a compliment.

Jamie wrate's avatar

Even though he's supporting an adjucated rapist, an obvious conman and a man whose stated policies will ravage the environment? Seems culty. How about if Charles shot someone on 5th Avenue?

Matt Vaughn's avatar

whoa... i'm not understanding all the negative energy here... talking about violence and rape, as the kids say, that escalated quickly. i'm genuinely confused... i was saying i supported charles' support of Dr. Clint Rogers.

Jamie wrate's avatar

I see. I thought you were saying your supported Charles' support for rapist Donald Trump. Misunderstood I guess. Apologies

Jamie wrate's avatar

When new age gurus support an adjudiated rapist and ravager of the environment things do seem dark indeed

Lottie's avatar

I suspect Charles is not lilly white in that regard. Sure has some strange things to say about the roles of guys 'n gals in the context of producing offspring. Especially his own numerous'love gifts'.

e.'s avatar

for you typing one disgusting comment is not enough?

you have got to spread your shit all over

you think you are being morally right, dont you...

Jamie wrate's avatar

Huh. Another narcisstic philanderer healing the world with his magic penis?

Lottie's avatar

Maybe that’s the true secret of resonant attention….

e.'s avatar

you are repetetive trolls

not just trolls

f. f.'s avatar

ah so - most esteemed e. e. personage please to exprain meaning of 'troll'. what it rike to be you?

Amazon  Roberts's avatar

WTF is going on? I’ve followed Charles for five years and recently questioned his judgment and intentions. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt because, though we had different views of what “a more beautiful world is,” I honestly thought he wanted one.

Today, after being scammed by someone he recommended on his Substack page, I’m not sure who Charles is or if he ever was the person he represented himself to be. I’ve been around this planet seventy-two years, and the only folks that have burned me or those I trusted, loved, or believed wanted to do better for this fucked up world.

Like others who have expressed their disappointment and dismay, I have to add embarrassment because I shared this scam with friends and family members. Some had nothing to give but gave anyway. Charles, wherever you are and whatever you’re doing, I wish you well. You have reminded me of Maya Angelou's words, “When a person shows you who they are, believe them…”What a following you have lost. Good luck with the more beautiful world you are helping to tarnish.

e.'s avatar

what do you mean

it is for free how can you claim to be scammed

Kitty's avatar

Hahaha this thread is delusional. When someone tries to serve the greater purpose it brings out the dark entities to try to shut them up. There must be a lot of light to be gained in these offerings. <3

Kitty's avatar

Wow. Just came back to see if anyone else signed up for this course like I did and read the comments…Y’all are mean. How would this work in the real world ~ Imagine for a second ~ Charles Eisenstein gives a speech in a public space and we are the audience. At the end he suggests that we take this course to hear a beautiful story that WE might benefit from. Then all of you who made comments above about racism and snake oil and rape stand up in the audience to blurt out these comments in public in front of everyone? Would you do it? How embarrassing. Come correct. Looking forward to this course. Thank you, Charles Eisenstein.

Lottie's avatar

Must have missed the speech part. All I saw was an advert for his buddy's course. Am I missing something? As for the rest, maybe he needs to hear it, and maybe if he spoke in the "real world" in a "public space" he would.

Kitty's avatar

“Maybe he needs to hear it” Hear what exactly?? And who are you to judge what he hears? why does this concern you? All these judgements and assumptions and accusations and character assassinations, really? For what? He is simply suggesting we hear a story and offered it for free ~ what is everyone’s problem? No one has even heard the story yet because it’s not until tomorrow! The comment section has become a reflection of our miserable society. A lot of us come here for a sense of hope that this author provides us. Hope is very rare these days. If you don’t like his content simply move on it’s truly that simple.

Lottie's avatar

You really should be capitalizing the "H" in "His".

e.'s avatar

you really should reflect on own darkness and misery

e.'s avatar

well said

their hurtful words mirror their souls

e.'s avatar

repetetive trolling

e.'s avatar

yes

mean, coward, trolls

CraigFelmer1's avatar

Profiting off of natural disasters with guru snake oil. Wonderful Charles!

Mary Palazuelos-Jonckheere's avatar

Charles I registered for the course, it sounds interesting , practical and serene not panicky, and I never found where to listen to tbe Medicine Story. I lived your last post with the woman who was giving up and her angels her patients in physical therapy..thanks.

August Coyote's avatar

We need to sign up for the course to hear the story?

Peggy Magilen's avatar

Don't think Charles meant that. Seemed he was sharing first, course secondary. But, yes, can't find how to listen.

Jamie wrate's avatar

Or send a photo of yourself with a MAGA hat (must show receipt)

Jamie wrate's avatar

Charles is now supporting the misogynistic, racist MAGA movement. Who will desecrate the natural world. If be reminded you of that feels uncomfortable that's a good sign you have a working conscience. Hope you put it into action in November.

August Coyote's avatar

He’s not supporting Trump or the desecration of the environment. 🤦‍♀️

Jamie wrate's avatar

He is or was supporting RKK who is supporting Trump. Trump will desecrate the environment.

August Coyote's avatar

You’re making a false equivalence there.

And he’s not supporting Trump FFS. 🤦‍♀️

e.'s avatar

whatever, troll

Lottie's avatar

Bonus points if photo is of you in said hat and an "occupy Mars" t-shirt jumping up and down like a two year old on stage with Trump

e.'s avatar

whatever, troll

Jamie wrate's avatar

I love your sense of self-parody. Calling me a "repetitive troll" twice is comic genius. Hats off to the rapist-enabler

Monkdragon's avatar

Anytime i hear ancient secrets i run for the hills. How can this be aligned with Charles’ philosophy.

Kitty's avatar

Oops I deleted my comment ~ Just signed up! Thank you!

Lauren Ayers's avatar

It seems doubtful if name-calling and self-righteous insults have ever helped anyone. A lot of these comments are basically bullying, but I'm confident that Charles can take it in stride. It's likely that many of these comments have been hired and paid for by PR firms working to shore up Pharma's reputation, which is crumbling due to the lethality of their products and the sheer greed of corporations that make products which they know can't heal.

Jowzer's avatar

While the enthusiasm for Dr. Clint Rogers' upcoming online course and his connection to the esteemed Dr. Naran may be infectious, there are multiple layers of concern that warrant a critical examination. Firstly, the description of Clint's story as "beautiful" and a means to "let in the light" paints an overly idealistic picture that lacks grounding in tangible evidence and specifics about what this "expanded realm of possibility" truly entails. This kind of ambiguous language often serves as a red flag in the realm of self-help and alternative medicine, where emotional manipulation can eclipse the need for critical thinking and personal discernment. Moreover, the statement claiming that one can participate for as little as $0 using a coupon could be seen as a tactic to lower perceived financial barriers, yet it also raises the question of the course's true value and the motives behind providing such discounts, especially when there is a sense of urgency embedded in the plea for wider participation.

The very fact that Charles admits to not having taken the course himself already shows a lack of proper endorsement; genuine recommendations typically arise from firsthand experience, not mere hearsay. This brings into question the authenticity and substance of Clint's teachings. Citing a need for "a peek into an expanded realm of possibility" also implies that the current situation—dubbed "dark" and teetering on the brink of hopelessness—is a state of being that is unlikely to change through storytelling alone. Real-world challenges often necessitate more than motivational narratives; they require actionable steps rooted in empirical evidence and proven methodologies. Dr. Rogers’ storytelling may indeed inspire, but without concrete strategies to address the issues at hand, such inspiration can easily devolve into mere escapism.

Furthermore, invoking ancient teachings and a lineage of masters can often obfuscate the validity of contemporary practices. While it is enticing to consider the wisdom of age-old traditions, one must critically assess their applicability in today's context and the extent to which they contribute to genuine healing. Using the allure of such historical connections as a crutch for questionable modern practices diminishes the integrity of the discourse surrounding medicine and healing. Finally, the collective call to action in seeking possibilities through Clint’s story runs the risk of creating an echo chamber that neglects alternative viewpoints or critical assessment, potentially leading followers to subscribe to ideas that lack empirical support or rigorous scrutiny. In summary, while there’s a well-intentioned desire for shared narratives of hope and healing, it's crucial to temper them with skepticism, as the charade of enlightenment may too easily cloud the hard truths of our present circumstances.