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Fuck yes.

This is the practice of sankalpa. Speak your intention it as if it was already true. Share your vision as if it was reality. "As if" thinking is powerful because it recognizes that on some level, your dream *is* reality. Us westerners gotta reclaim our imagination and visionary capacity and retrain our minds to not dismiss them.

It's not just the word that has prophetic power. Art of all kinds can do this too. I know you're a word guy, but some of us are more visually or musically inclined prophets.

I sometimes use my design skills to make little magical acts. Yesterday I created a graphic that manifests a dream I have that Canada will create a Department of Holistic Health that will promote diet, exercise and holistic practices instead of merely pushing vaccines, self-isolation and fear. Check it out: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTDoswNvfNn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

May it be actually prophetic!

I'm looking forward to walking with you on this journey Charles. It's time for us Gen Xers to step up into the role of "elders in training".

Brian

medicinepathpodcast.com (my invite is always open!)

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Agreed Brian, about the Gen X eldering! And somehow in that, we are the ones that crossed over from an analogue life to a digital life during adulthood; I think there is something powerful in that experience and while it might go the other way at some point (digital back to analogue) it will never happen again, that difference in our bodies and brains has to count for something... something to be held in the eldering I think.

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I’m with you. My wife and I talk about this a lot, how we are a bridge generation who remembers “the time before”. Bless you

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hey that is cool - I have only ever got a 'what are you talking about?' response from anyone that I have mentioned this to... For a long time, I have thought that this is important but I cannot quite grasp exactly what and why ...and what that means we put out into the world. Is it just that our bodies have existed in the world without even a knowledge of a 'device'? just writing that feels amazing that I experienced that, and well, sad it is no longer ...yet here I am/you are on a device...

Blessings to you too :-)

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Hello Dear Greer and others in this part of the thread. As true as it is of GenXers and their relationship to before and after ubiquitous digital devices and the internet, please keep in mind and heart that your parents (Boomers) also have shared that "bridge generation" transition. And too, their parents lived through great transitions (WWII, globalization, the rise of the American empire, the advent of TV and the beginnings of mass media manipulation – see Adam Curtis' "Century of The Self" on YouTube – etc. I hope you are seeking out and honoring wise elders to mentor you as you move into eldering.

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Unfortunately true elders of the boomer generation are hard to come by. So many of them are living out their "golden years" trying to hold onto their youth in Mexico (or Arizona or wherever else they "retire"). I related a story to Stephen Jenkinson once about seeing an old man in a motorized cart that had a license plate on it that said "retraite"...the French word for "retirement"...which reveals etymological correlations to "retreat", "withdrawl", "desertion", "abandonment". It was a sad and perfect illustration of the way things are.

I've had to seek out "elders from afar"...but even that doesn't quite fill the need of an elder embedded in a community who can impart their wisdom through presence and consistency. It's a sad state of affairs that I'm hoping we can remedy so that the younger generations aren't left adrift like us "slackers" were.

I hope that you're being a true elder for your community Aysha, so that when the youth come looking for one, there's someone to meet them.

Brian

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Hello Brian! I am sorry that your experience is not one of many elders generously sharing their experience with the younger generations. I know there are many who do. Of course, in a highly competitive and individualized (isolated) society as the USA, many feel (as your generation may too) that they worked and fought so hard as to deserve their retirement. And from another perspective, there is such disconnection from inter generational relationships that elders often feel marginalized and invisible. I live in Spain (having left the US 10 years ago) and one of the most heartwarming aspects of Mediterranean culture is the persistence of family ties. I have many friends in their 20s, 30s and 40s who do not see me as an ‘old woman’ but as a friend because they have beloved aunts, or cousins, or grandparents who have a normal part of their circle of support and mentorship. Simply put, the ageism and lack of respect, the disassociation of seniors in American culture means everyone loses. Yes, I am available and delight in these many and varied relationships in which I get to both share and continue to learn. The empowerment works both ways. I think if you look a little deeper you will find it where you are. If not, contact me! I have 66 years of amazing adventures and entrepreneurial experience I am happy to share!

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Agreed and thank-you Aysha for your empathy and your wise words

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I will out myself as an elder (68). I am present, listening to the conversation but usually silent. My 30-something daughter was surprised to learn that I never took my eyes off her at the Adventure Playground when she was a child. She had no idea that I was watching and restraining myself from intervening unless necessary for her safety.

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Hello Lynn, Kudos for "outing yourself"! I think it takes great restraint to listen, observe and not intervene "unless necessary." I am trying to cultivate that quality of waiting to be asked before offering to give advice. On the other hand, I've observed (and been told) that many of us have not learned it's OK to ask. They may think it an imposition or a show of weakness, or that they "should" be able to "figure it out" for themselves. But, I believe, we all benefit from the knowledge and wisdom of the collective. From a coaching standpoint (which might be construed as "eldering"?), it is valid to ask, "Would you like some feedback on that?" Or "Are you willing to...?" So I wonder when, in the context of this sort of open forum, you have/or might feel it necessary to intervene? I, for one, would love to hear more from you!

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As a result of Brian James’s comment, “Unfortunately true elders of the boomer generation are hard to come by” and Aysha Griffin’s encouragement “I, for one, would love to hear more from you!” I have started a new substack newsletter called Elder Mentor (https://eldermentor.substack.com). I have credited both of you in the introduction.

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Wonderful comments💗 thank-you

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Some personal context for Charles expressions of prophetic hopes in his. latest essay. The following words by him are taken from a 2017 essay "The Age of We Need Each Other" It was an experience he had while working through feelings of failure.

"I had a vision of a spiritual being that came to me and said, “Charles, is it really your wish that the work you do fulfill its potential and exercise its right role in the evolution of all things?”

“Yes,” I said, “that is my wish.”

“OK then,” said the being. “I can make that happen, but you will have to pay a price. The price is that you will never be recognized for your role. The story you are speaking will change the world, but you will never get credit for it. You will never get wealth, fame, or prestige. Do you agree to pay that price?”

I tried to worm my way out of it, but the being was unyielding. If it was going to be either-or, how could I live with myself knowing in my heart of hearts I’d betrayed my purpose? So I consented to its offer.

Of course, time would tell that it wasn’t actually either-or. What was important in that clarifying moment was that I declare my ultimate loyalty. Once that happened, recognition and prestige might or might not come as a byproduct, but it wouldn’t be the goal. After all, the work I do isn’t “my” work. These are ideas whose time has come and they need capable scribes. Our true wages in life consist of the satisfaction we get from a job well done. Aside from that, well, the rain falls on the just and unjust alike."

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Thank you for the beautiful reminder

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“Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering it's a feather bed.” - Terence McKenna

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Lao Tzu is a better role model for a prophet than Trump or Musk. He had a vision, delivered it, and disappeared into the mountains. Perhaps he understood the folly of becoming a leader.

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Very good,

"Lao Tzu is believed to have been a Chinese philosopher (a person who seeks to answer questions about humans and their place in the universe) and the accepted author of the Tao te Ching, the main text of Taoist thought. He is considered the father of Chinese Taoism (a philosophy that advocates living a simple life)." - source: Google.

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Plus: What are the 4 principles of Taoism?

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Daoism, sometimes spelled Taoism, comes from Ancient China and the writings of philosophers like Laozi, who lived during the 5th or 4th century BCE.

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These 4 Teachings of Daoism Will Help You Navigate Life

SIMPLICITY, PATIENCE, COMPASSION. “Simplicity, patience, compassion. ...

GOING WITH THE FLOW. ...

LETTING GO. ...

HARMONY.

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“Let us no longer ask. Let us tell” is certainly a sentiment I can get behind. But how can it be more than just naive sentiment—a pipe dream? How can it be more than the power of the toddler who shouts “NO! I won't go to bed!” when we all know that's exactly where she's headed? What makes Musk different from me is the power and access to resources he has to shape the world the next day, should he so choose. He, or ANY of the ruling elite.

The question is how do we do so when our agency is diminished by our relative poverty and power? Collective action is certainly powerful but society has so many threads pulling us in so many different directions that coalescing to exercise our collective muscle is like herding cats. And there are no mass movements today which can serve as a vehicle for our more noble aspirations.

It’s easy to incentivize people through the market system by rewarding them with money for the goods and services they produce. But I would like to create a world which could incentivize the production of fully realized people—an optimized humanity. Conscious men and women would do well to work towards creating the fundamental conditions where society places more value on the intangibles (wisdom, authenticity, integrity, compassion, courage, etc) than it does on resource acquisition, status, and power—all wedded to ego needs.

The way out is through the door. Why is it that no one will use this method?

– Confucius

The reason is that the door has armed guards. Heroes, like Julian Assange, Ed Snowden, and Chelsea (Bradley) Manning have shown us the way. They have also shown what can happen if you try to walk through the door alone. They did what they had to do because they were men of conscience and to have done otherwise would have been psycho-spiritual suicide. If wildebeests were to cross the river one by one, the crocodiles would target and converge on them. Only by swimming across en masse can they hope to confuse the crocs by presenting an indistinguishable and unstoppable sea of bodies. How would such a feat be achieved for human salvation? How can we do better than mass protests which appear to be nothing more than citizens going cup in hand to ask for more? How could we get that kind of balls-out level of commitment needed to save us all? How can we end the business of flapping our wings (and our lips), and actually take off to go somewhere better? How can we resolve the fear that tethers us to the ground and the ignorance that prevents us flying off in the right direction?

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Charles, fear not. 😊 You do not have the narcissism required to be a dictator. So embrace the power. I'm looking forward to seeing the vision unfold. Because you do have the gift of vision and of words to reveal it. We all know and feel it too and are cheering you on!

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Breathe, think, speak...free! We are creating creators of creation. Keep on, my brother!

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I read your essay. Then I subscribed. Then I jumped over to my daughter’s Insta, to see what new thoughts or pictures she may have shared. This is what she has written: “the internet has been feeling very dark and heavy for me lately with everything that’s been going on. Sometimes I simply…log out for a few days to unwind behind the scenes. I want to bring the ‘social’ part of social media back so I’m here for you if it’s been feeling heavy for you as well. Message me anytime, my DM’s are open to chat if you just need someone to listen! Let’s focus on the light that is still present in the world and rekindle that affection with purely just living..” So, there you have it! Confirmation of the Beautiful World Theory!!! Amen, daughter. Amen, brother Charles

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I've been working on tools + perspectives to empower a similar vision.

Prompting people to consider the futures they wish to live in, and providing tools + processes to manifest those futures, with the community + people around them:

- https://placeflow.net/welcome

- https://sambutler.us/localfutures

And some slides, diving deeper into the merits of community-led action (in contrast to individual action, which much of the world x media x doers seems fixated on):

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FBOLqLTO64DLa-Ws3zi1GSGxL4y5MglhGJkXn1ztV4E/edit?usp=sharing

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Sam, can you point me to a zipcode or city that has some projects listed in Placeflow? I'd like to see what it looks like in areas where projects or visions get posted. Thanks!

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I have so much faith in the vision we are creating together absolutely not wavering at all when I have had a long history of anxiety and questioning myself. It just feels so solid and right and I see much evidence. I had a synchronicity story happened to me today that I’ll share on the forum. Thank you thank you thank you for saying yes to the calling you feel not letting the negative inner critic keep you from that important mission

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Plus the synchronicity story is going to allow me to live fully and the gift economy which makes me so happy I cried when I found out

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Lovely post which I can relate to.

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Yes, dare to take up space and tell it, declare it, invoke and incant it. I am with you in doing so in the small ways in which I do in everyday life. I see and know and feel the beautiful world intimately. Your words resonate with me in my blood and heart, in my bones and my inner knowing. My attention is directed to beauty, coherence and interconnectedness. May this lead me to choose each thought, action and feeling to intentionally create our future moment by moment, thought by thought, action by action, feeing by feeling. You inspire me. Thank you for sharing your gifts.

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I'm about to post your article on facebook. The last time I posted one of yours I was banned from posting for 24 hours - so let's see what happens. :)

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Oh my. I need to see if that happens to me!

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Yeah, this time I wasn't banned - it must have been that that essay specifically titled "Mob Morality and Antivaxxers"

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My prototype idea from doing U. Lab 2X is based on IPBES Natures Futures Framework. I am seeing a card game or some other tool (I don’t know how to make an App) that encourages people to choose which positive nature based future they want to materialise. Futures others (people invited by IPBES) have seen/hope for include denser living with corridors of nature weaving and connecting all. Or less dense with every household producing food in their garden. Some focus on wild rivers regenerated and undamned. Another option is technology using shelters for living and growing food, green walls and roofs etc. Anybody here want to explore this with me? The last few weeks (since Charles essay was attacked, just for the timeline as there were many other things) I have felt like taking up less space, abandoning ideas other than caring for my mother, garden and self. I think the feeling was that the AI & Totolatarism/division was going to be hard to avoid and I would rather be dead. However I am off on a Nature (vision) quest next week. May the vision come.

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One of the best things C has ever written, IMHO (and that's saying something....) Becoming aware of a vision of the future, and then calling it into Being. Not just 'hoping' that something good will happen, but 'knowing' (i.e. behaving as if) it will. Thanks, Charles

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Agreed! We create our future. Quantum physics supports that ideas, words and thoughts are energy which creates. I love the line "let us tell"

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This is so crazy. I just jumped back over to IG to read a new post by a vivacious and powerhouse friend (ICU nurse freshly fired for not receiving the ZHOT..). After almost two years of taking about nothing but the bizarre world we’ve been living in, her post was An Announcement: EXPECTING! LIFE, IN VIVO!!!! The exact opposite of all that is Dark and Heavy, and another manifestation of the more Beautiful World our hearts need to keep beating

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Really in sync with this essay. But wondered do you really own less than half of 162 billion in assets or was that a typo?

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I had the same question !

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As did I. Puzzled me and not in a good way. Was it tongue in cheek? If yes, it missed the mark imho.

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Does it really matter what he "owns"? Does that make what he writes more or less true?

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Oh he certainly does. I do too as do most of us.

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Yeah, I read these sentences OVER and OVER again: "Elon Musk owns assets worth some $162 billion. My assets are less than half that, yet I believe I have something to learn from him and from others who wield the power of word." Surely Charles isn't worth 80 billion dollars, right?? He says this so soberly so I think either it's true - he has a shit-ton of dinero - or he made a mistake....or maybe he really DOES have that much money!??? Could it be true? I don't care either way but it just surprised me... (or maybe I DO care? I think I'd be a little suspicious of him if he had that much money, honestly...)

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Charles had a tongue in cheek moment

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Ya think? I guess so eh? He could have put a little wink in there :)

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