How about unlearning your white male privilege, Charles. Hand the microphone over, already. We don’t need another discussion between two white men. Your job as men is to serve women and children. Unlearn that we are to serve you. Unlearn that your voices are the most important. And learn from women—starting with black, brown and indigenous women, the most oppressed by the system. That’s where you go to actually learn. You’ll unlearn some shit real quick if you actually just start listening to women.
I have come back and forth to this - seeking to express my feelings - and the truth is IF this course was the first one done/made/created and unlearning had occurred ... the UNLEARN truly would be revealed in, both your partners running it - not yourself Charles and Lorenz. I have been listening to Lorenz and his wife/partner building their platform of Sutra - a great community based builder... but IF the unlearning was really happening it would be handing over the mic to the women in your lives (who are both super powerful women) - this isnt about not wanting to hear from Men or their perspectives .. but ya know - its been centuries of that and one of our greatest unlearnings is to release this strong hold of men (especially white men and more webinars and podcasts telling us all their life wisdom) and bring women - their voices - their wisdom - out from behind the curtain and learning a new way forward... does that mean men don't speak from the heart (in case that becomes a thread) no - it doesnt but it isnt the space you dwell in well Charles despite 'thinking' perhaps you do... unlearn - step down - hand over - give space - ... and if the women in your lives dont want it - find the voices of those around you who do there's plenty out there in these topics!
unlearning is absolutely crucial if we want transformative change to be emergent...and the biggest unlearn is recognising what very fabric of the human experience is -we are not this separated self needing to find security and happiness 'in' the world #qualityofmind
For me it means abandoning beliefs that I had always taken for granted. For example, that I am powerless and completely dependant on social systems like school, banking, employment, allopathic medicine etc.
Lorenz' style of evoking conversation/exploration with Charles was among the best for stimulating inquiry and insight as I ponder ways to more fully serve the world. Most interviewers or two-way 'discussions' stick with an evaluative and philosophic approach, compete, or merely agree, instead of disclosing personal impact, reflect, or ask for clarification. Thank you Lorenz!
What’s the problem with you, Christian Felber and so many more of the neo-ecological movement?
You don’t say NO!
Education is not a social vaccine!
No! We don’t get back to the premodern time where a group of wealthy people have to decide what the not so wealthy people have to do, to think, to act.
No! We don’t repeat biosociological thinking in the polical sphere! Because we now this was already the beginning 100 years ago!
You don’t say no! that it is not okay to follow an indoctrinal educational programme like “social vaccination” = mentally, emotional indoctrination = hacking the brain in the terms of neuroscience.
You don’t say No! to industry 4.0 as the heart of SDGs.
Who thaught that it is so easy to convince especially Germans and Austrian to forget their eugenic history of the socialist movement 100 years ago and to repeat the pattern in a fractal way.
Who thaught, that it is so easy to reactivate German idealism and making everything again possible.
This was the first course I took of Charles’ and it was life changing.
Same here! <3
How about unlearning your white male privilege, Charles. Hand the microphone over, already. We don’t need another discussion between two white men. Your job as men is to serve women and children. Unlearn that we are to serve you. Unlearn that your voices are the most important. And learn from women—starting with black, brown and indigenous women, the most oppressed by the system. That’s where you go to actually learn. You’ll unlearn some shit real quick if you actually just start listening to women.
I have come back and forth to this - seeking to express my feelings - and the truth is IF this course was the first one done/made/created and unlearning had occurred ... the UNLEARN truly would be revealed in, both your partners running it - not yourself Charles and Lorenz. I have been listening to Lorenz and his wife/partner building their platform of Sutra - a great community based builder... but IF the unlearning was really happening it would be handing over the mic to the women in your lives (who are both super powerful women) - this isnt about not wanting to hear from Men or their perspectives .. but ya know - its been centuries of that and one of our greatest unlearnings is to release this strong hold of men (especially white men and more webinars and podcasts telling us all their life wisdom) and bring women - their voices - their wisdom - out from behind the curtain and learning a new way forward... does that mean men don't speak from the heart (in case that becomes a thread) no - it doesnt but it isnt the space you dwell in well Charles despite 'thinking' perhaps you do... unlearn - step down - hand over - give space - ... and if the women in your lives dont want it - find the voices of those around you who do there's plenty out there in these topics!
Here here! It’s time to hand over the mics, fellas! Turn your heads around. The more beautiful world our hearts know is possible is led by WOMEN.
unlearning is absolutely crucial if we want transformative change to be emergent...and the biggest unlearn is recognising what very fabric of the human experience is -we are not this separated self needing to find security and happiness 'in' the world #qualityofmind
What about unlearning that virus are contagious? this would help humanity the most! removing fear of viruses. www.VirusTruth.NET
What is "unlearning?" You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Is it the same as getting stupid? Brainwashing? Is it the same as "re-education?"
For me it means abandoning beliefs that I had always taken for granted. For example, that I am powerless and completely dependant on social systems like school, banking, employment, allopathic medicine etc.
You might find this effort to begin to get free of some of the most powerful legacy beliefs of interest: https://open.substack.com/pub/steven3c6/p/my-research-agenda-for-a-post-trump?r=21x2h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Lorenz' style of evoking conversation/exploration with Charles was among the best for stimulating inquiry and insight as I ponder ways to more fully serve the world. Most interviewers or two-way 'discussions' stick with an evaluative and philosophic approach, compete, or merely agree, instead of disclosing personal impact, reflect, or ask for clarification. Thank you Lorenz!
What’s the problem with you, Christian Felber and so many more of the neo-ecological movement?
You don’t say NO!
Education is not a social vaccine!
No! We don’t get back to the premodern time where a group of wealthy people have to decide what the not so wealthy people have to do, to think, to act.
No! We don’t repeat biosociological thinking in the polical sphere! Because we now this was already the beginning 100 years ago!
You don’t say no! that it is not okay to follow an indoctrinal educational programme like “social vaccination” = mentally, emotional indoctrination = hacking the brain in the terms of neuroscience.
https://www.salzburgglobal.org/news/topics/article/sel-a-new-vaccination-for-the-next-generation
You don’t say No! to industry 4.0 as the heart of SDGs.
Who thaught that it is so easy to convince especially Germans and Austrian to forget their eugenic history of the socialist movement 100 years ago and to repeat the pattern in a fractal way.
Who thaught, that it is so easy to reactivate German idealism and making everything again possible.
the WHO is not our friend. Virus are not contagious!
all vax harming humanity www.VirusTruth.NET
why is Sutra connected to the WHO?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Can you show me where you see Sutra is connected to the WHO? That would be odd.
Thanks Charles! Looking forward to continuing to gather. See you Friday!
You might find this effort to begin to get free of some of the most powerful legacy beliefs of interest: https://open.substack.com/pub/steven3c6/p/my-research-agenda-for-a-post-trump?r=21x2h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
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