Rebuilding trust is so important in our individual connections but also in those who purport to act on our behalf. After covid, I don't feel I can believe anything that any representative of any government on either side of the political/ideological divide has to say. My work no longer has meaning and all I want to do is leave the city we live in and head for the hills. I have reached the point where I doubt everything and question everything I read from mainstream media sources. I have running battles with people I don't know and will never meet on online platforms. Everywhere I look I see manipulation and indoctrination. I fear for my daughter who is starting high school next year. She is so excited but how can I share in her excitement when they are taught that they are vectors of disease and don't have the power within themselves to heal and fight infection? Everything has become ultra polarised. It's all so sad, so tragic that we have been pitted against each other and it's only a matter of time before another event is used to amplify / reignite the divisions between us and drive fear into our hearts. What is the point of politics if politicians are increasingly self-serving, or, worse, handmaidens to an elite and unelected ruling class whose agenda is self-serving and constitutes the eradication of our freedoms and our spirit?
I feel you and is important to grieve and question as you are. I’m there too. I’m also going to dig myself out of this despair to create my reality With focusing on what I can do and be for a shift in our world. Please join me. I recognize despair and mistrust gets me nowhere I want to go so I must begin the journey back to a place I believe in. Much love to you
Charles thanks for asking! My family in the US refused to allow me to visit for 1.5 years (because non jabbed). Just this week that has changed. One of them "can't wait to see me." I don't at this moment feel the same, it is going to take me time to figure it out on an emotional level. One of my friends thought it was fine for kindergartners to wear masks, another wouldn't go to events unless the jab was required, these are people on spiritual path and were some of my closest friends. On top of the tear in the fabric of these individual relationships there is the loss of trust on a macro level with government and economic structure, the realization of the depth of the rot in the western health systems and how the global elite fit into it all. It has been a shock to my system honestly. The overarching theme taking place now feels surreal to me -- many people are going on with life as if nothing has happened while myself and others look on at the catastrophic breakdown that continues to happen. Even knowing this will lead us in a better direction, knowing these systems needs to breakdown, on a day to day level it is challenging. If you could address any of these topics that would be wonderful. All the best to you.
OMG yes I will address these. In reading these comments, I feel like I've been almost derelict in my duty by not writing about Covid for a few months. Well that is gonna change.
Charles. Just reading this thread has been completely validating. Thank you for opening the opportunity to see I am not alone. I really thought I was the only person that felt off. I get every single thing that has been expressed here. And it gives me real hope.
If you need the time for the wave to build, then you did the right thing, and now you're gonna write. It's all good, brother. Do your wonderful thang. xo
Nicki I know just what you mean. My siblings, who used to be--and still are--into alternative medicine and have always been very choosy about which vaccines their kids and pets got, are totally supportive of the Covid vaccines for themselves and their families. They ridiculed my husband and me for using Ivermectin when we got Covid. THey live far away from me so I didn't have to find out if they wouldn't have allowed me to visit, but I suspect they wouldn't have. It's bewildering and scary to see how easily they hopped on the bandwagon.
Yes I hear you, bewildering for sure. There are layers of the "seeing" of seeing truth, I always say it's not for the faint of heart :) I have been traveling solo and living out of the country for many years and connecting with my family and friends in person periodically (and being welcomed to visit) has been very grounding and solidifying for me so there's been a lot of inner work to do!
Hi Charles - I have loved everything you've written about this issue and it has brought me great comfort and good talking points when I've cared to get into such conversations. But something I haven't seen anyone address except in some of the other comments is this: because I'm not vaccinated, I have been barred, excluded from, uninvited and asked to leave so many groups, classes, activities and organizations that I love. It has been really painful and isolating in this small town. And there is absolutely no space or opening for talking about it with the folks that have done the excluding. They're too certain of the correctness of their actions.
The organizer of a little once a week, ukelele jam session I'd been asked to leave last year emailed me and asked me to return, at least while they meet outdoors for the summer. It brought up an astonishing array of emotions and I didn't know how to respond. I wrote back with a blend of gratitude, understanding, and honesty, saying I'd love to come back, I understood it was hard to have asked me to leave, but that I now felt awkward. I said I'd think about joining them some week, but I wasn't sure. I never heard back. I kicked myself for saying too much. Maybe I should just have been grateful for the invitation, said nothing but "Thanks!", and gone back and had fun like I used to.
On the one hand, I was uncomfortable, grieving, hurt and angry, and I wasn't sure if I'd have as much fun as before, what with my conflicting emotions.
It's not just about this ukelele group. It's about all the others--the yoga class filled with friends and a real sense of community, now open only to vaccinated people. The annual summer reunion of high school friends that has met every year for the past 45 years, from which I was expressly (and sanctimoniously) excluded last year. Two museums my husband and I used to love to go to. Two "open and affirming" churches I used to frequent that have closed their doors unvaccinated people, and no one sees the irony. My therapist, who is alternatively minded (for lack of a better term) and commiserated with me about Big Pharma and modern medicine, but who, when Covid hit, got the vax and said it would be "difficult" to see me unless I was vaccinated. Recently she said maybe she could start seeing me again, if I wore a mask and used nasal spray that has been shown to kill SARS-CoV 2--even though I told her I'd had Covid and was immune. A Celtic music trio I was part of, a Course In Miracles Study group, two favorite museums we're long time members of, a favorite bookstore, the local repertory theater, and on and on.
How do we respond if/when we're invited back by people who, last year, chided/berate/challenged/questioned/excluded/feared/shamed us? How do we respond to the sanctimony, the lack of understanding, the impatience, the shaming, the "can't-we-just-move-past-that?"
I'd like to say I have sufficient sympathy and compassion to laugh it off and happily return if/when invited, but the pain that came up when I was invited back to the ukelele group made me realize it's way more complicated. It's also a huge burden to consider having to talk about it with people who don't want to hear it, and to do that whole cost/benefit analysis to decide when or if to bring it up and take that all on, which is exhausting, or just stuff it and risk bulking up our personal and collective shadows.
So I'd love to hear what you might have to say about this. Thanks again for your immensely healing and important words.
This is a big one for me too. It is tempting just to let everyone forget the whole thing. To let people forget that they excluded, denounced, cancelled, censored, and ostracized us. I am willing to let bygones be bygones, except for one thing: How are we to know it won't happen again? I don''t feel very safe among these people.
And I'm STILL trying to find WORK... I'm close to being on the street... I feel very uncomfortable going to any govt. "assistance" or asking for handouts, which don't come anyway, trying to advertise my own business with NO money to do it, etc etc. I am hanging in there, and somehow I'm surviving, but it's scary, even though I am still here, by the Grace...
I love your writing, you are full of Good Stuff, soulful and kind... it's nourishing, my brother, just food for us all. Thanks.
And I don't feel safe around them, either. Snitches? Not unheard of... sadly. Scary.
Susan, I'm almost done writing the first installment of this series and I quoted one of your paragraphs. Hope that's OK, given that it is already on this public page. I referred to you as "Susan." Is that good or would you like me to add a last name, address, SS#, etc.?
I think it is better to just use your first name, since that is what it is on the thread. But as you wish. I don't know your last name though! Hmm, and "Vermont" might be relevant too.
Hi Susan, I am not sure what part of Vermont you are in, but we sure experienced and there are still echoes of it, the exclusionary measures in this state. There are places around me that still require proof of the shots to attend. I am on the edges of the upper valley, and we started a monthly or so potluck last August with other "dissidents" who happen to include a wide range of ideologies but most are/were of the progressive kind of mind set but now.... who knows since our eyes have been opened wide. Anyway, if you happen to be anywhere near us geographically, I would love to invite you to our next gathering.
Hi Tonya - We're in Bennington but my husband went to Dartmouth and lived in that area for a while so we'd would love to come for a gathering! And maybe we could talk about the UV heart idea! I think my email is on my Substack account so you should be able to see it by clicking on my name--I think that's how it works.
Susan, that is heartbreaking. I am so sorry you endured that. I totally understand your mix of emotions. I was flabbergasted by the number of people I thought I knew well who fell for the pandemic propaganda. What I felt the most betrayed by were the so-called religious and spiritual people who became mouthpieces and minions of fear.
Yes, Kandy, that's exactly how I feel--betrayed and confused by the alternatively minded, holistic, nature-loving, herbal, re-enchant-the-world, Gaia-loving spiritual folks who have bought all of this at face value and become germophobic and paranoid that only Big Pharma can save us.
So well said, that’s the thing for me as well. How do we move on with these people, some of them cherished friends and community members, in a way that honors and respects the pain, anger, anxiety, etc that went with being excluded or shut down or simply disengaged with as a result of our (courageous) positions taken over the last two years.
Susan, I SO relate. I wish you lived in my town, I want to have a music circle SO BADLY. And to bring back story-telling and poetry readings and all the good stuff I don't have anymore, and haven't had for almost 3 years now... Any chance you live in WA State, Kitsap Peninsula? ;)
Hello there! I live just north of Seattle and can empathize fully. I have so few unvaxxed friends, and while my good friends who are enthusiastically vaxxed want to understand me, they just can’t. I have felt such depths of loneliness at times.
And now, after Gov. Inslee’s recent proclamation that all government workers must be fully vaxed, I’m just stunned. I was a substitute teacher in high demand with a stellar reputation in a district that needs subs, and yet I have been “terminated” forever. It’s actually a blessing, because I have moved on to other, creative ventures, but I’m still angry that my school district and my state government are so…stupid. Why would I want to work for a district or state that doesn’t recognize the science that the vaxxed and unvaxxed are the same? I don’t know. But I still have to fight back the anger sometimes. (I still can’t sing in church choir, but at least mandates in Seattle were finally lifted so that I could see my son sing in his college choir and graduate summa cum laude in 3 years. Thankful I didn’t have to miss that!)
I'm so sorry. I know that depth of loneliness, and anger, too, especially at the friends who insist on "reasoning" with me about my "fear" of being vaccinated. But I've been fortunate because I work at home as a full time sculptor and that didn't change, and my husband and kids all work from home, too. We're really lucky that way.
I hope your creativity blossoms now that your time is more your own!.
It has!! I took some watercolor courses which is so much fun, and I also discovered I have a knack for sketching! I’m also working on a few children’s book ideas that I’ve had percolating since my teaching days. Our youngest (of six!) just graduated from college, so the need for extra funds is not so pressing. And I have reached out to find more like-minded friends. It’s all good, and I am blessed. I know I’m where I need to be. =)
Hello! Of course my immediate inclination is to move into your backyard and live in my tent.
The isolation is really hard! I'm so sorry for your situation with work, but really, it's those who submit that will suffer even more, perhaps... or maybe I've got it backwards, if death is a kind of freedom... I don't know, but it feels to me as though the concentration camps are not so unimaginable... Maybe we could start a business of our own... I'm always trying to find a way to be independent...
Maybe there is something going on in all this that we will welcome in time. The depths of these soulful exchanges in response to your message Susan is very heartening. Perhaps we are entering a time when our exchanges with others will be based on something more meaningful - a deeper connection. I am also an artist and was really quite shocked at the lack of backbone amongst my community. For me, art and freedom, cannot be so easily divided. We show a mirror to our communities - show/tell/record what we experience in the world around us. We ask questions of ourselves and of others - it is an important aspect of the nature of art. Even asking the question, “Isn’t this beautiful?” is revolutionary in that it acts as a disruptor to the norm - stops you in your tracks and changes the rhythm of your breath. We absolutely need the freedom to explore our world if we are to do our job - to ask our questions and lift that mirror for our communities. Maybe we will begin our new friendships based on our shared values and place these values above all other criteria. Of great importance for me is the opportunity to exchange my thoughts with friends openly and without fear. I’m genuinely interested in what other have to say and would be very happy to agree to disagree and part with an embrace as long as I knew that conversation took place in an open and safe sandbox with no threat of being shut down or cancelled. Thank you Charles for your insights and creating this safe place.
Yanagi and other artists, Team Left is working furiously to deconstruct any notion of beauty. After all, if something is beautiful, that means something else is less beautiful. And we can't have that because that's not "equal" or "fair", can we? This is why our culture is being flooded with ugliness on the reg.
Thankyou Yanagi, and Charles and everyone, so appreciate these musings! F*** yes, the lack of backbone! Wanted to say that, after doing a bunch of letting go ceremonies, and consciously exiting one community, one of the stickiest remaining experiences for me is how to come back from being excluded (as unvaxed) from a new, local feminist gallery and brewhouse in my country town. This new venue was set up by friends in the last year, and I so want to support them in their fledgling venture, but I feel an incredible dissonance between the profession of feminist values and the desire to share art that questions and awakens, and then the utter unquestioned disregard for body freedom and genuine consent without coercion. I have 'forgiven' them - ie. decided I don't want to hold onto this inner conflict and have it clogging up my energy, and so I released us all with love - but my body still doesn't want to go in there, and so I haven't. It remains a conundrum, a teaching, a clarification, and an invitation to trust the process...
Grace, I know exactly what you mean about wanting to be supportive and involved, but feeling too much dissonance. I may think I've let things go, and done ceremonies or other things to consciously release them, but then the pain crops up again, often with slicing intensity. I think it's because our bodies are more honest than our psyches, and that, because of socialization and genuine beliefs to be loving and so on, we're forgiving before we have allowed ourselves to feel the pain of exclusion and judgement. I think exile and banishment are the worst punishment society can mete out. We are hardwired for connection and love, and to be excluded is often worse than death. That's why this vax agenda has been so powerful and damaging--because it's exploiting our worst fears about aloneness and abandonment toward the goal of total compliance.
The science is the unvaxxed are MUCH healthier and the vaxxed are the ACTUALasumptomatic spreaders I learned this in nursing school in a slightly different variation. They informed us to always wear gloves with vaxxed children as we could get polio and other disease from them while changing their diapers. The truth is there if one looks
I wish we lived near each other and could play music together! Or dance, or sing! I have lost access to all those things--recorder groups, dance and music camps, jam sessions, contra dancing, harmony singing...I so miss them.
Part of the plan-demic, it seems. I have this new motto: Resist Not Evil-- Work Around It!
It's HOW to work around it that I'm struggling with... How to find my Tribe... Remember in grade school, we just went up to other kids and said, "Wanna be friends?"
Yes--exactly--how to find our Tribe. It's all turned on its head, now--what or who or where are the people who are part of our Tribe? And Tribe is so much more than relationships with people and family. That's Kin, but there's also Kith, a word that is almost obsolete in modern times. It's from the Old English sense of the Place you come from and the place you call home, that larger sense a loving, intimate, friendly relationship with the people,plants, animals, buildings, unseen things--the whole landscape and those that share it with you. And not only do you know and love it, but it knows and loves you back.
It's not just relationships with people that have been desecrated, it's relationships with Place, too. To me that's the biggest heartbreak. We're being systematically taught to mistrust and fear Nature and our sense of place in the world around us.
That you know about and understand the word "kith" puts you in my tribe for sure! ^_^
YAY!
I'd love to keep in touch... I don't usually yammer on so much on other people's pages, but Charles has such truly wonderful posts, and he's a magnet for KITH, the certain kind of kith that I'm looking for... Thinking about how to be respectful to Charles and not just publicly give out my email... You can see how desperate I am for some KITH!
Yay indeed! Not many people know the word kith much less understand it. I agree Charles is all about Kith, and that's so precious and rare. It would be lovely to be able to gather with others writing on this website. It does feel like a tribe.
I found your website and will try to contact you that way. Or you can contact me via mine: Flightofheart.com. I hope it's not uncouth (a word actually derived from "kith" originally, meaning "not from around here") to post my website here but I do want to stay in touch.
I’m too triggered by your wonderfully written post. As a Jew who lost half my family in the camps and a black sheep in the family who always did non mainstream things at the derision of all my family wfo always called me the crazy one I’m the only uninjected family member. I’ll never speak to these cretons again. I’m also a hypnotherapist. To deny you were treated like “ a dirty Jew” by all these sheep is to deny the invalidation of your soul. As sad as it is I’d create alternative groups with uninjected people. I’m sorry but these assholes deserve even MoRE of the truth of how disgusting they behaved. Not less.
ironically, when I said the same forces were at work in the persecutation of the unvaccinated as were at work behind the Holocaust, *I* got accused of anti-Semitism. By non-Jews.
People need to understand how they have wronged you. Most do not. Also, in a group context ( I also have been dropped from social groups) -- some organizer might invite you back, but it is hard to know what others are thinking. I have opted to keep my distance because I am pretty sure that as soon as someone comes up with Covid, the group would be blaming me -- the unvaxed. The information on this is totally (and deliberately) misleading. Fortunately, I have a couple of friends who, while frowning on unvaxed, are willing to get together outdoors. My social life is scaled back, but I have other interests and will manage for now, until people really wake up to what us going on.
Yes, the blame for the unvaxxed is still happening, despite clear evidence it's the opposite. I have been working since pre-pandemic on an art commission for a luxury cruise line. The company has an environmental ethic and is wonderful to work for, and it has been a dream job. Part of my compensation was supposedly going to be get to go on a cruise on one of the ships my work is for. It would have been a trip of a lifetime. But their Covid policy is extremely strict so that was no longer an option.
However, I just heard from a passenger who contacted me about my work that she and members of her group came down with Covid on the ship--despite every possible precaution! There is no way to blame unvaxxed folks. I wonder/hope the company might revisit their policy and i could go, but I think political pressure against that is too strong.
I still hope, though, that some wealthy and powerful companies will see what's really happening and stand up to the Orwellian script. It would only take a few brave companies to start the unraveling.
Hi Susan... I’m so sorry to read all you explain here... and I’m wondering, which country are you in?
I’m in Germany and, so far in Europe, us - the unvxx - are not forbidden to go anywhere (at least that I’m aware of and we travel a lot thorough Europe). We were completely cutt off from everywhere during the 2 years of plandemic, but now “magically” we can go and do as everyone else, vxx or not. Literally. (Anf you don’t need tests or any type of “documents” anywhere, not even to travel within Europe). This, in itself, is also suspicious.
Hi Ximena - I'm in Vermont, USA, and things are varied here. There are as yet no state or federal bans that I'm aware of, but private institutions make their own rules and it's chaotic. I can get dental work, massage, haircuts, etc. and eat in all but a few restaurants, but many performance venues, festivals, dance events and museums have strict vax-only rules. What's hardest is personal friends who are terrified, and more informal events like music groups, book clubs, singing workshops, etc. that all require vaccination and boosters. It seems the more "progressive" and socially liberal a group is, the more virtue signaling they do--and I do think much of the vaccination uptake in my community is about showing how much you care about others (ironically).
Ugh, Susan. Your story of being excluded is very sad. It's pretty bad here in MA, I live in one of the most liberal and progressive of cities, right down the street from the hallowed halls of Hahvahd. All of the universities and medical centers here are on board with jabs/boosters for ALL, no questions or exemptions allowed. I did lose touch with super militant vaxx-crazed friends who thought I should be barred from public spaces but found other friends who despite being obedient vaccinees, were not afraid of me and dared to be in my presence. It was so odd to witness the shift of the "vaccinated", at first it was "we're worried about YOU" to "we are afraid of and resent you".
Local bars I've frequented for live music for 30 years now exclude me despite the fact that I had Covid in May and recovered fine. Yet a possibly infectious 4x jabbed person is welcome to enter. There is at least one restaurant here that won't even let un-injected sit on their patio. It is patently absurd as at my healthcare (remote) job and in my personal life I see dozens upon dozens of 3-4x jabbed getting sick with symptomatic illness and of course, expressing their gratitude for the "vaccine" for keeping them out of the hospital.
Despite having valid medical reasons for foregoing experimental injections, I was mistreated by close relatives last year and it's going to take some time to forgive. I try to feel compassion for they were clearly brainwashed by fear porn and caught up in the mass formation. Today I'm trying to enjoy the long summer days in full swing as I have a creeping sense of trepidation about what the fall may bring.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I live in VT right on the border of MA and it's true they seem more rigid than VT, but it does vary wildly and chaotically. It IS going to take a while to get over the pain, and to forgive, much as i wish I could be more magnanimous.
My husband and I joke that since we've all been branded with the equivalent of the scarlet letter, we should come up with some kind of a symbol for unvaccinated people, like the early Christian fish or the LBGTQ rainbow, so we can wear our pins and wink at each other or post a window decal to demonstrate acceptance and welcome. Maybe an ultraviolet heart with "U.V." in the middle of it, because dammit, we've all been wounded in action by this horror.
Interestingly Germany ULTRA reacted together with Austria (as you probably heard). Those of us who chose to opt out of the craze were completely banned from EVERYWHERE for 2 years (my partner and I were even made a public example of and rudely kicked out from supermarkets and pharmacies for not wearing a mask EVEN when we had medical exceptions and those are first necessity places) and so many people lost their jobs to that. Then, suddenly, they lift EVERY rule they set up and everyone is virtually free to go as they please.
And I wonder... how are they justifying that now you don't need a vxx to work to the people they literally forced to get it or lose their income? What do they say to them? Come back? Or, oh I fired you because you didn't want to comply but now I'm hiring people regardless of their vx status? Or, oh, yes, you HAD to get it to keep your job but now I'm hiring people who didn't get it and don't have to get it...
Honestly... it gets messier and messier by the day.
I hear that. I'm in WA... very similar. And getting a lot of "Are you vaxxed?" responses to job applications, along with a LOT of silence, for whatever reason, too. (They probably see my stance on Substack! lol)
I can relate. My family and some friends did this, but your whole community, can't be easy. I think it's also going to take me some time to figure it out how or if to re-enter into these relationships.
My feeling is the 2 years of “pandemic” were just the bare beginning. People seem to think it’s over when, in fact, only the first part of the experiment has been completed (wether it was successful regarding its intentions or not, is beyond me. Probably it was quite successful but not completely). So, I’d love to hear where you think we’re towards now and which goals you think they achieved during this experiment (and which are still to be reached).
As I commented above, things have not let up for anyone who opposed the narrative, like doctors who treated with ivermectin or the truckers. They are being punished so that we all know to keep quiet and go with the narrative next time. We need to stand with these people.
Your totally right , the goal is a normalisation of many things we would have never accepted before , its also been an exercise to machine learn the Ai ' Crisis ' and response of populations . The use of Ai and Behavioural modelling by ' nudge units ' in governments is very troubling as the Ai can pre map response of entire populations like a game of chess 15 moves ahead . The situation we are in is way way worse than many will admit but and its a big but this is an aspect of a Total revolution of our species .
Those in power did not achieve everything , they have pre laid the table shall we say , pre loaded some peoples minds with thoughtforms like ' anti vax ' and there no1 tool is Mass formation psychosis which they program using Ai , this is the dark force we are against , that and human apathy and Fear of admitting where we are as a species . Very few will admit where we are as a species which is under the control of Psychopaths and Sociopaths and Narcissists and those types simply never learn , they do not give up , they do not feel what we all feel , they have one Law and thats to do for themselves what benefits them . They will not stop ,. they will have to be stopped , not sure how yet . I think we are in a Class war of a kind.
Peace , the opposite of this will come , no fear , faith and personal will are all thats needed and Truth
Rebuilding trust: yes, that’s a big issue, but I also think that it has been shattered beyond repair. I have always been a skeptic anyway, but these last two years have deepened it to the point where I no longer pay any attention to anything or anyone purporting to be a mainstream health authority. There’s just too much cynicism in my mind and I immediately suspect they are either dupes or have some other nefarious intent.
How to go forward from here: what is needed is a way around it, a new medical underground, so to speak, that deals in concrete, useful and actionable information about COVID and other respiratory illnesses, like medicine used to be before the government and/or insurance lobbyists interfered and shot it all to hell.
The “new” medical underground isn’t new at all, but has been here well before the allopathic pharma mafia was formed. It is terrain theory and homeopathy and Chinese medicine, and everything else that never attributed illness and disease to one invisible cause and claimed only one pathway (injections and pills) to wellness.
It doesn’t discuss the body in terms of purported invaders that can only be viewed dead and stained under an electron microscope. It doesn’t describe an immune “system” with role players like T cells and ACE receptors; rather, it speaks of toxicity and stress, cleansing and healing.
The entire paradigm is backwards. Germ theory is a fraudulent lie.
Yes! And Charles, please re-examine your belief in germs. It is the germ paradigm by which the dark powers continue to exert control and block healthy relationship to the world and to all our brother and sister beings. That fraudulent hold must be broken. You could help.
Perhaps in time, when we can really bring on the natural medicine again, the holistic, naturopaths, homeopaths, all the folks who use Nature's own medicines and truly Do No Harm... we will re-build our trust, because healing is natural, it's essential, and we are not static, stagnant Things, we are part of the Flow. One day we'll look back and be glad we were able to see the Good after all this hellish Covid and Pharma nastiness... Sending you some hugs, Lizzy D.
For me personally, I don’t think trust in government and medical “authorities “ can ever be rebuilt. It was already waning pre-Covid and is basically gone forever now...
And good riddance. People have been waking up to the lie of pharmacology for some time now. It's wonderful to be here on the brink of a New Phase, where we can use our vast stores of science and health to DO THE RIGHT THING for a change, and forever more! I so hope I will be around to see the dawn, and some of the day, of the New Era comin' in. Yeah.
For me the most damaging issue that still lingers on post-Pan and has cost the "still living" lives, is the sad departure of most of my lifetime friends of 20-40 yrs and some family relationships. This has hurt so deeply that I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if we had of died from Covid. Finding out that there was conditions to the love you thought you had is the deep hurt. Isnt the very definition of love to have it come unconditionally? Living with the pain of knowing that people you thought were your friends and family that eliminated you is the fallout, the wounded soldier and broken spirit. Is it due to their altruistic- virtue -condescension and criticism. Using their new found "V status" as a reason to lord over others in superiority and unconsciously or consciously finding ways to divide themselves from their "loved peoples"- Over a V? REALLY? Insert shock, awe, & much disbelief. What was and is still missing in the hearts of people that they could expect the non V to accept their choices of being V yet in turn could not reciprocate the same to others? And now these same persons are unwilling to mend the broken relationships, hence making it it last well beyond the Pandemic. Back to normal is it? Masks off? I say not. My guts hurt from the pain of loss and bewilderment. Not just one but 7 people. Its as though they cant come back to you now because they may have to accept and face their own inner Miser, their own Judge and Jury- who hanged the innocent men & women. The un V (how we ever got this as a prefix?) are not guilty of any crime, yet we are sentenced to a life-enduring penalty. To me, the Pandemic in this context, is not over. We may not see the damage visually as we pass eachother in the supermarket, but this is because we wear the scars unseen hidden inside our broken hearts.
I agree with you, Charles. But, why is that badge, affiliation, so important to some that they will cast off long caring relationships? Or, do they not even realize what they do because they are so consumed by fear?
I feel with you Patricia and I too was subject to alot of blaming, shaming, labeling as many of us. I too feel hurt at times. Yet, the way I see it is that this is like an accelerated workshop to wake up to consciousness. To me it is important not to get stuck in the hurting. Our very essence can not ever be hurt. And I feel that is where the solution for us as humanity lies - to find back to our divinity. And I don't mean that new agey at all. And I don't mean that in any religious way. Spirituality to me, can not be conditioned on any concept. If we find back to our common core and source then we will be able to know we are one humanity I believe.
Such potent words, thankyou for taking the time to share... "their own inner Miser, their own Judge and Jury- who hanged the innocent men & women." Wow.
It isn't over in my world, either. Two days ago I brought my daughter to a physical therapy appointment and was told to remove my cloth mask and replace it with a brand new disposable one. I expressed my concern that the harms of single use plastic might outweigh the immediate risks. The conversation escalated and the staff quickly went into a defensive mode where any discussion was impossible and we were told we had the "choice" to go somewhere else where the policy is different or to leave. I was so angry and so shocked. I wished I could have been more calm and persistent, wished I had more facts and data I could have shared effectively, wished that I didn't feel so emotional about it all. My daughter also just was notified that unvaccinated can't attend the summer dance intensive she has been signed up for since February. We had to sign a religious exemption form in order to attend. It is not going away here in MA.
Yeah, my dentist is in MA and when I went last month I had to wait on the cement pavement outside because of the mask thing. I was able to stay calm and friendly, that time, but not every time, and in fact I think it might actually be helpful to display our anger and shock. because then people know we are serious and are having strong feelings. It lands.
Yes, I was denied dental care when I needed it because I was unjabbed. I was in a lot of pain. I became almost hysterical with panic as I realised I had to deal with it on my own. Which I did. I feel like I stepped into a space which is all but forgotten. Or at least, the medical/pharma pillars would have us forget. Pain, self-healing, herbs, kindness, faith (in love) paved a pathway to a new confidence in myself and my body - and also our collective innate powers to weather what life brings us. ALL things about the human condition, including physical pain need to be accepted. There is such a trend to expect, demand even, a life without physical suffering. The triumph of a body that suffers and recovers gives strength and joy to every level of being, physical, emotional and spiritual. Gratitude and kindness spread like a balm. I don't have a being to lay that gratitude before but I feel it when I connect with the trees, the clouds and the smell of the earth. Steadfast patience, transmutability and the power beneath our feet. Charles, you are a leading part of such enormous and important change, thank you. I am an eternal optimist and so heartened about the possibility of how we can come together to live in right relation with nature and each other. Keep it up!
Personally, I think “nice” is how we got to this wretched place, and that “nice” is in fact being systematically leveraged against us.
Niceness has become weaponized.
“We don’t want to make a scene, right? Just do what we’re asking...”
Why has everything become about the comfort of others? Why should we apologize for being whole, feeling humans? I think it’s time we start showing our true feelings a little more.
I agree with you. If we never say anything, people will not know that anybody is questioning and standing against what is being prescribed. It's the cost of the energy we have to put into speaking out then protecting ourselves against what comes back. I also don't think I've made a jot of difference to any mask-wearing, msm addicted believers, in fact I know some have written me off. So in doing one 'right' thing by speaking up in the 'debate', I've invited negative attitudes toward me to come back. It is a hard one. Even so, I know me and I will always speak out!
Good luck navigating things for your daughter. I warily, and angrily, await to learn what new things my son will be blocked from. I fear things will get VERY BAD in the Fall. I know that feeling of wishing you weren't so angry. I couldn't agree more... "Things aren't going away here in MA."
My daughter is learning from it all, at least there is something positive. She is wondering if she even wants to enter the 'dance world' based on what we can see of how things operate. These situations are really awful for families where one parent disagrees with the other or where the child has been convinced that parents are wrong in refusing to vax. I am seriously considering moving but not sure where to run to.
I am a mom going through similar issues. It was all too much this winter in MA. And still People remain under a vax spell. Yesterday someone emailed me out of the blue full of hate saying I should be locked in my home until the pandemic is “over.” The writing is on the wall in MA. They are trying to get rid of the religious exemption. Get out while you can. I am moving to NH next month.
I’d get a restraining order against this person. I’m serious. That’s a threat. I don’t deal well being threatened. I’d get a judge to issue a restraining order. Then I’d make that person violate it and call the cops to arrest them. I’m no longer playing around. I’m from MA. Live in Denver.
Sorry to hear about that email. Awful. It's impossible to get my head around the animosity. My sister in Colorado says that people there are questioning things and starting to talk. I don't see that even starting to happen here. I agree the writing is on the wall here in MA. I hadn't heard they're trying to get rid of the religious exemption. Good to know. Good luck with your move and being a mom in NH. With 'live free or die' on every license plate, I can only imagine and hope that it will be a better place to stand your ground.
Oh gosh, I hear you. Yes, that 'how things operate' is potentially so deeply embedded in EVERYTHING. The lessons have been as steep for me as for our son. My husband was already there. We've been lucky that we share the belief that whatever it takes, we will refuse our son being a part of the experiment. So far, we've been lucky. Our son agrees. But, he's 12, and I worry what would happen if being left out becomes too much for him. I think moving would have to be the answer. But, ya, I'm not sure where.
Such senseless stupidity. It's seriously bad here in Maskachusetts. I'm a lifelong resident and how just over 60, I am wondering if I'll be forced to leave.
My response has been aggressive and Vocal. “ I have a medical exemption under ADA. Do you know what ADAis? Are you aware I can and will sue you personally and the facility if my ADA rights aren’t respected ? Are you saying you still want to violate my federally protected rights ? I’m recording all this. “ 9/10 x these bastards back the hell down. I’m DONE playing
I would be curious to hear about how we can reconnect with old friends who have remained inside the old paradigm. I have wrestled with how to forgive friends who attacked my character when I explained how I saw the situation. Must we truly find all new communities or can we traverse between the simulation and the new space.
We joke about living on Planet Bob (a reference from the old movie Titan AE), to describe the societal split that’s happening, and I think will continue to happen. Parallel society building, as Charles said, seems to be an exciting solution.
My kids have never been in gov schools. We’ve been suspicious of the medical monopoly even longer. Owning land, building gardens and co-ops and wellness centers and hosting potlucks...this seems life-affirming and collaborative.
I don’t want to shrink and censor myself to maaaybe, hopefully get along w folks who are still righteously following the narrative.
yes this is a question on my mind a lot right now. Seeing as I was just "invited" back into their company I have not yet found the answer. I think it will be hard to build trust again if no apology or recognition of the impact of their choices and words is forthcoming, but I took will be seeking a way to move forward that feels compassionate and practices loving kindness.
So much rebuilding to do Charles society seems shattered , if there were many pieces one could hope for nuance . However it seems less a shattering and rather more a fault line through the middle . Metaphorically a wall is being erected between two distinct beliefs / narratives . I’ve been directly affected for my own choices , however I’ve done my best to assimilate the choices of others . The defining motive being the great evolution of compassion and understanding , I believe we had reached this place pre 2020 now I’m not too sure . There are many things the power and strength of your writing might address :
What now for right and left politics
How much industrial medicine should we now be thinking of in our lives
How do we create natural fitness , how do we learn to accept death
How do we open up discussion between groups how can we express nuance without appearing indecisive
Mostly Charles where is the love now ? Certainly it’s not in red pill / blue pill - awake / non awake beliefs and labelling . It’s in love - action whatever that might take to see other ? What are your thoughts
With love Charles , I wait in expectation of your writing
Taking sides is still righteousness energy, still playing the victim/aggressor role. I believe cultivating neutrality is where we find peace, and liberation from this false choice.
As a hypnotherapist and Jew with half my family dead in the camps neutrality is the reason they were murdered. People need to stay on the side of ethics and what’s right. I don’t want or need neutrality or correctness.
I understand your strong feeling Jane especially with the demise of your family . I don’t feel the ethics are at this point yet when the science still remains relative . Objection has not found either side in extermination “ “camps “. The fight against mandates has been largely successful , Austria the most ardent of these has now dropped all such pressure on its public . Many Academics agree more on the ineffectiveness of lockdowns . We are still luckily enough at a learning phase where discussion and openness could win the day . Certainly the maintenance of binaries is in itself a “trance “ maintained by many Empires and it this in fact that leads people to do terrible things against “ other “
Fran, thanks for the response. I want to push back slightly. If you are saying the ethics arent clearly on the side of NO shots, Im not sure what youre using to defend the stance since literally there are thousands of actual scientific papers by world leading vaccinologists and immunologists and cardiologists showing severe death and injury. VAERS alone shows that with only 1% reporting. Currently approx 51,000 Dead Americans and over 1.7 million severely permanently injured ( not including the moderately and minimally injured which are probably most of the injected based solely on the over 1291 SEVERE reactions listed by Phizer who was forced by a court to release the evidence and data they asked the courts to keep secret for 75 years. Multiply those 2 numbers above by minimally 40x and thats a CONSERVATIVE estimate of real injury /death data. And that data is smaller but similar since 1973 onward and more after The 1986 Act which released NON tested Childrens vaccines on children which killed and injured babies and children for decades. VAERS is very clear.
Krystal and Fran: And sometimes we come up against those who will ONLY play the aggressor role (as in, psychopaths). I'd like to hear what you might think about how to address being attacked by someone, or a group of people, who want you as a victim, don't care about harming you and actively desire it, and are scornful of your suffering.
I understand the THEORY, but the REALITY is more difficult, especially when simply leaving the scene, as it were, is not a good option.
Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what happens. ^_^
To me, this is where the warrior-in-a-garden adage becomes handy. There’s a difference between being peaceful (choosing to stay neutral unless attacked directly) and being harmless…meaning, you cannot or will not defend yourself even if a direct threat occurs.
Indeed. What I'm interested in, as to your thoughts, is about when one is attacked directly. I'm not looking for a definition, but what you think, philosophically about the decision of action or non-action.
Word herder as a man of mixed race in this world both black and white set me out as victim and and don’t have full membership of either group in the eyes of some . Membership I’ve learned from being on the outside is unnecessary and we learn so much from aloness . There will always be psychopaths and sociopaths what they need is victims and the freedom from victimhood is through the self . Sometimes great knowledge comes from aloness , from quiet from discovering one’s own identity . There’s always a danger that aloneness gets mistaken for lonliness it’s not , neither is it a place where we watch envious or craving for acceptance . So Wordhealer from experience nothing is more healing in my experience than peace .
I agree that nothing is more healing than peace. It's not easy to find peace when someone is actively trying to take you down, and the real victims are other people who can't fight back effectively.
I am in a situation of that kind. I know my identity pretty well, and it's not the issue. The issue is persecution and false accusations and through that causing harm to vulnerable others.
Thanks, Fran, understanding and acknowledgement does wonders. Plus, I am giddy with the farmers' protests, and the federal case against Biden in Utah, with David E. Martin at the helm, and the ever-fucking Guidestones being blown up... It DOES help! I'll survive this and be stronger...
I don't feel like we've moved on from Covid at all in NH. People are still wearing masks (tho not as many) and jabs are still mandated for many jobs. All my friends are vaxxed and boosted and they love it! No changing any of their minds. They want to shame people who are unvaxxed, like me. My son couldn't be a guide on a canoe trip in Maine because he wasn't jabbed, so it feels to me like we are a long way from being beyond Covid. It doesn't seem like the powers-that-be are going to let us go back to normal life EVER.
Same here in WA state where our governor has held executive power for over 850 days and just decreed permanently that all government workers must be fully vaxxed.
I live in a lovely part of the world, and yet the oppression is so thick I sometimes find it hard to breathe. I have felt such depths of loneliness because I have so few friends who are unvaxxed, who truly understand my experiences. And I worry about my family members and friends who are vaxxed, what the future holds for them. I pray a lot (and believe in prayer), but it doesn’t always seem to help my rising blood pressure (which I feel rising just by typing all this out!).
I am so sorry, teacherlori8. I could have written the same thing so I know the feeling deeply. It's impossible to try and explain what we're going through to those who are vaxxed because they would say it's our own doing since we could just get the shots. It IS very lonely now. The only thing that helps me is my family and extended family remain unvaxxed, though 2 families moved away to Utah and Montana due to the mandates in Mass (Vaxxichusettes). This just isn't going away and it's very painful.
Vaxxichusetts indeed. I can immediately think of 9 or 10 friends here with obvious "vaccine" injuries. Mostly all in denial. One friend with new onset arrhythmia and dizziness shortly after her booster initially called me saying she thought she "had myocarditis from the booster". I felt her pulse (I'm an RN) and it was highly irregular. She has since pivoted to "it was the coffee...it was wine....it was dehydration....it was lack of sleep...it was from being in the mountains". A couple of weeks ago she decided: "It was definitely from wine".
I'm very worried that she is being pressured to get #4. I'm leaving out stories of their family members with sudden strokes after "vaccination", etc.
I’m the mother of 6 adult kids, two who are married. The older 4 plus spouses are all happily vaxxed. The younger 2 are adamantly not. For a while there was a bit of division in my family over this (all because we care about each other so much and the concern for each other is great), but we seem to have worked around it. We don’t talk about opinions on anything covid-related in order to keep harmony. I still worry greatly (and pray a lot). Most extended family is vaxxed but not boosted.
I'm next to Boston in an undisclosed location. ;-) Through a couple of like-minded friends I've been able to connect with other "dissenters" and attended a local gathering recently.
Hello Charles. Before posting this comment I spent a little time looking at what others commenters had to say and, in truth, I relate to much of what has already been written. I, too, feel cynical and unable to trust authorities, experts and mainstream media. I, too, am angry and fear that we may have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to societal manipulation and control. I, too, am worried about the future of my children and grandchildren. That said, I believe the changes that have taken place, especially over the past few years, stem from a place of attachment (whether it's our penchant for accumulating and consuming things or, more insidiously, our attachment to thoughts, ideas and opinions, i.e. right and wrong) and ego dominated thinking. I often feel caught between two worlds and wonder if others feel that way as well. It's easy, for instance, to become drawn into (and enraged by) the latest controversy, albeit vaccines, the Great Reset, the most recent SCOTUS decisions, and on and on. And every time my ego draws me in, it feels familiar - perhaps even comfortable - as though I've been here before. Many times. (I remember similar feelings of conflict and anger arising when the US invaded Iraq...again, similar feelings, different context.) Have you ever taken a road trip in a car that only has an AM/FM radio? Remember the static that happens when you begin to drive out of range of the radio station? At first it's barely noticeable but before long it becomes nerve wracking and unbearable. That's what our world feels like. The static is deeply pervasive...it keeps us from hearing, seeing and knowing that this is not how life is meant to be. Perhaps it comes down to making a conscious decision not to let the static become overwhelming but if that's the case, I have tried time and again and have not been successful. I suppose my question - or what I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on - is this: How can we create the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible while at the same time being pulled back into the world of attachment and ego and the continual, destructive feelings of conflict, betrayal, anger that accompany it? We were not meant to live this way. Thank you, dear Charles, for all you do to inform and inspire others.
It seems to me that the most urgent thing is to regain our awareness to the fact that we are powerful creative beings, divine in nature. We have taken a 'wrong turn' somewhere and live in the mistaken belief that the world of form and phenomena is everything. Our identification with and focus on the mundane keeps us trapped in the illusion of separation. This, I feel, is the root of our crisis. It is a crisis of consciousness. While we are working through the housing crisis, the financial crisis, the Corona crisis, the war, the climate crisis, an economic crisis, and whatever other crises may come, all the while we are overlooking the fact that all of this is just the outer form of our collective consciousness. How can we find our way back to the spiritual creator being that we really are?
I apologize for my poor english, it's been a while since I lived in the USA, my english gets rusty.
The US has moved on and other places maybe mentally. However just to the north, Canada still quarantined the unv’d and is making statements about boosters for flying this fall. We still wear masks in certain places. General practitioners are asking for in-patient (think: paps) to be double v’d. People are quite sick in what seems like a constant rotation here in Ontario. Many relationships that ruptured have not repaired. The dissonance is still very high and most are focused on inflation naturally. Curious to see how you float this conversation.
I should also mention as it hasn’t been spoken about anywhere, I spent a few months traveling Mexico, seeing if it would be a possible future. Mexican’s are interesting, overall a very submissive culture. If something is to be done it seems it’s done covertly. Meaning unless it’s time for a revolution (which is not a distant reality in that country) they go with the flow. If they disagree you wouldn’t know (as that could disrupt their personal security and those they are close to if the winds are strong enough in the opposite direction). Meanwhile in Canada many of us didn’t realize - it’s the same up here. People will turn their backs which is destabilizing. The difference with Canadians - we don’t have the language or history to acknowledge this is what is happening. We, unlike our US neighbours, are steeped in a deafening silence that is a signature of our culture. So it’s no surprise everyone is sick here, may that be a side effect of v’s, lack of exposure due to our excessive isolation/lockdowns, or repression and denial manifesting physically.
In short I’ve come to believe that all of these outcomes are from a place that everyone detects threat and is acting from survival instinct no matter how it’s dressed up or down. We are animals and we know there’s a deep and very profound change afoot. My concern is Canada is small enough and docile enough, with so many reliant on a single payer (gov) for their livlihoods that we may serve as an example first. Mexico will do what it always has, work under uncertainty and do their best. I worry for their jobs and if they’ll be given a safety net. America will be the experimentation ground to show what those who conform get and what rebels get. Each country is a Petri dish of its own. CoVid …. is just a medium to work it through.
My partner and I ( both american) spent the two covid years traveling throughout Mexico, Central and South America. We were unvaccinated the entire time and managed to find ways to travel generally unfettered, except for the initial lockdown of a couple of months, when we were in Belize. I found that very few countries had similar fears as the people I spoke with in the United States. Some wore masks indoors, especially in the larger cities, but mostly people went on with their lives and were not afraid. And we met many people from other countries who felt as we did, they were out traveling as well because they did not fall for any of the predominant western narratives. Nobody questioned us about our vaccination status ever except in airports and we were not required to be for any of our flights, buses, taxis etc. Our American friends thought we were reckless I'm sure, but we are healthy and did get covid in Ecuador, and it was very minor. I think the lesson for me is that much of the hysteria came from media and governmental and corporate fear-mongering, while people in other countries pay a little attention to that sort of rot. It felt much more civilized to be away from the United States for those two years. Traveling kept me sane.
Situation is still very bad in Canada, agreed. Yet Canada has the lowest rate of booster uptake of any "G7" country, I have heard. Gives me hope for us.
Most people I know who are v’d did it feeling like they had to. Barely anyone thought it was necessary. It was boomers who refused to see grandkids, having to travel for US based jobs (or gov jobs) or being excluded from social networks that sealed the deal. 100% of those asked who aren’t boomers think the booster is bs. The university students seem to gobble it up. Being ostracized is likely the main component or refused admission to classrooms. Everyone is sick frequently. Praying for the best in all of this.
We have not fully moved on here in the Bay Area (mostly Berkeley and Oakland.) People are still wearing n95s outside and masking their children. Many businesses still require masks. My friend's autistic son is still required to wear a mask at his school in Marin. Alameda County issued a 3 week mask mandate (the only county in the US to do so in "post-Covid" times!) and it was shown it made NO difference compared to neighboring Contra Costa county which is very similar to Alameda in makeup and size. The health officer of Alameda, when shown this data by a reporter (Eric Ting of SF Gate), said "We believe it made a difference." So how do we move on when people are clinging to this and still so anti-science and using "belief" over facts? How do we break localities out of this brainwashed state, that attaches masks and Covidian religiosity to being politically moral and woke? Because some of us who are sane still have to live in these areas and it's utterly depressing...
“So how do we move on when people are clinging to this and still so anti-science and using "belief" over facts? How do we break localities out of this brainwashed state, that attaches masks and Covidian religiosity to being politically moral and woke? Because some of us who are sane still have to live in these areas and it's utterly depressing...”
Exactly... this is it right here. Best of luck to you, feel your pain and depression. It’s utterly discouraging.
Jenny - There’s a really great group of health freedom and home school people in the area called Luminary Village. Maybe you can connect with them and find some solace and support among the few reality-based people in Alameda.
These comments really resonate with me as I am also angry. I'm sure there is a great desire to just move on without really understanding or even caring to understand. This would be a very grave error. We have all been through something, much gas lighting, censorship, disparagement of alternative voices, outright attempts to remove medical credentials, coercion manipulation lies. I think it is incredibly important to know that we who see this reality are many. I would also like to understand how Mass formation occurred in this case, and what we can all do to not be part of it in the future, and to help wake up those who fell for it this time. Because I believe the attempt will be made to use the same tactics for any number of politically or profitably motivated hysteria in the future. This is not over by any means, it was a successful operation but for us.
Your writing and discussions have been crucial for surviving and keeping our sanity these last two years.
I feel like this is far from over and I don't mean the virus but the "emergency measures".
Here in Greece where I live, we had some of the worst measures and response to Covid. People who refused the jab, were treated as second class citizens to put it mildly.
But it is not over. Just of yesterday Greece’s highest court, the Council of State has ruled that the mandatory vaccination against Covid-19 for those aged over 60 is “constitutionally tolerable” and the monthly fine of 100 euros per month is a “reasonable motive” .
Rebuilding trust is so important in our individual connections but also in those who purport to act on our behalf. After covid, I don't feel I can believe anything that any representative of any government on either side of the political/ideological divide has to say. My work no longer has meaning and all I want to do is leave the city we live in and head for the hills. I have reached the point where I doubt everything and question everything I read from mainstream media sources. I have running battles with people I don't know and will never meet on online platforms. Everywhere I look I see manipulation and indoctrination. I fear for my daughter who is starting high school next year. She is so excited but how can I share in her excitement when they are taught that they are vectors of disease and don't have the power within themselves to heal and fight infection? Everything has become ultra polarised. It's all so sad, so tragic that we have been pitted against each other and it's only a matter of time before another event is used to amplify / reignite the divisions between us and drive fear into our hearts. What is the point of politics if politicians are increasingly self-serving, or, worse, handmaidens to an elite and unelected ruling class whose agenda is self-serving and constitutes the eradication of our freedoms and our spirit?
Well said. I hope I can meet some of these feelings in my essay.
I feel you and is important to grieve and question as you are. I’m there too. I’m also going to dig myself out of this despair to create my reality With focusing on what I can do and be for a shift in our world. Please join me. I recognize despair and mistrust gets me nowhere I want to go so I must begin the journey back to a place I believe in. Much love to you
Divide and conquer is an old strategy. Self-replicating division is a gift that keeps on giving to the conqueror.
And sowers of discord, IIRC, are placed by Dante in the second-lowest circle of the Inferno.
Charles thanks for asking! My family in the US refused to allow me to visit for 1.5 years (because non jabbed). Just this week that has changed. One of them "can't wait to see me." I don't at this moment feel the same, it is going to take me time to figure it out on an emotional level. One of my friends thought it was fine for kindergartners to wear masks, another wouldn't go to events unless the jab was required, these are people on spiritual path and were some of my closest friends. On top of the tear in the fabric of these individual relationships there is the loss of trust on a macro level with government and economic structure, the realization of the depth of the rot in the western health systems and how the global elite fit into it all. It has been a shock to my system honestly. The overarching theme taking place now feels surreal to me -- many people are going on with life as if nothing has happened while myself and others look on at the catastrophic breakdown that continues to happen. Even knowing this will lead us in a better direction, knowing these systems needs to breakdown, on a day to day level it is challenging. If you could address any of these topics that would be wonderful. All the best to you.
OMG yes I will address these. In reading these comments, I feel like I've been almost derelict in my duty by not writing about Covid for a few months. Well that is gonna change.
Charles. Just reading this thread has been completely validating. Thank you for opening the opportunity to see I am not alone. I really thought I was the only person that felt off. I get every single thing that has been expressed here. And it gives me real hope.
If you need the time for the wave to build, then you did the right thing, and now you're gonna write. It's all good, brother. Do your wonderful thang. xo
Thank you Charles. Don't worry it's all unfolding in divine timing!
"...the realization of the depth of the rot in the western health system....it has been a shock to my system honestly." YESSS, a thousand times yes!
thank you! It's nice to hear this. To know we are not alone.
Nicki I know just what you mean. My siblings, who used to be--and still are--into alternative medicine and have always been very choosy about which vaccines their kids and pets got, are totally supportive of the Covid vaccines for themselves and their families. They ridiculed my husband and me for using Ivermectin when we got Covid. THey live far away from me so I didn't have to find out if they wouldn't have allowed me to visit, but I suspect they wouldn't have. It's bewildering and scary to see how easily they hopped on the bandwagon.
Yes I hear you, bewildering for sure. There are layers of the "seeing" of seeing truth, I always say it's not for the faint of heart :) I have been traveling solo and living out of the country for many years and connecting with my family and friends in person periodically (and being welcomed to visit) has been very grounding and solidifying for me so there's been a lot of inner work to do!
I’ll never speak to my cruel and evil / delusional family ever again . all injected. All behaved criminally. I’m done
Hi Charles - I have loved everything you've written about this issue and it has brought me great comfort and good talking points when I've cared to get into such conversations. But something I haven't seen anyone address except in some of the other comments is this: because I'm not vaccinated, I have been barred, excluded from, uninvited and asked to leave so many groups, classes, activities and organizations that I love. It has been really painful and isolating in this small town. And there is absolutely no space or opening for talking about it with the folks that have done the excluding. They're too certain of the correctness of their actions.
The organizer of a little once a week, ukelele jam session I'd been asked to leave last year emailed me and asked me to return, at least while they meet outdoors for the summer. It brought up an astonishing array of emotions and I didn't know how to respond. I wrote back with a blend of gratitude, understanding, and honesty, saying I'd love to come back, I understood it was hard to have asked me to leave, but that I now felt awkward. I said I'd think about joining them some week, but I wasn't sure. I never heard back. I kicked myself for saying too much. Maybe I should just have been grateful for the invitation, said nothing but "Thanks!", and gone back and had fun like I used to.
On the one hand, I was uncomfortable, grieving, hurt and angry, and I wasn't sure if I'd have as much fun as before, what with my conflicting emotions.
It's not just about this ukelele group. It's about all the others--the yoga class filled with friends and a real sense of community, now open only to vaccinated people. The annual summer reunion of high school friends that has met every year for the past 45 years, from which I was expressly (and sanctimoniously) excluded last year. Two museums my husband and I used to love to go to. Two "open and affirming" churches I used to frequent that have closed their doors unvaccinated people, and no one sees the irony. My therapist, who is alternatively minded (for lack of a better term) and commiserated with me about Big Pharma and modern medicine, but who, when Covid hit, got the vax and said it would be "difficult" to see me unless I was vaccinated. Recently she said maybe she could start seeing me again, if I wore a mask and used nasal spray that has been shown to kill SARS-CoV 2--even though I told her I'd had Covid and was immune. A Celtic music trio I was part of, a Course In Miracles Study group, two favorite museums we're long time members of, a favorite bookstore, the local repertory theater, and on and on.
How do we respond if/when we're invited back by people who, last year, chided/berate/challenged/questioned/excluded/feared/shamed us? How do we respond to the sanctimony, the lack of understanding, the impatience, the shaming, the "can't-we-just-move-past-that?"
I'd like to say I have sufficient sympathy and compassion to laugh it off and happily return if/when invited, but the pain that came up when I was invited back to the ukelele group made me realize it's way more complicated. It's also a huge burden to consider having to talk about it with people who don't want to hear it, and to do that whole cost/benefit analysis to decide when or if to bring it up and take that all on, which is exhausting, or just stuff it and risk bulking up our personal and collective shadows.
So I'd love to hear what you might have to say about this. Thanks again for your immensely healing and important words.
This is a big one for me too. It is tempting just to let everyone forget the whole thing. To let people forget that they excluded, denounced, cancelled, censored, and ostracized us. I am willing to let bygones be bygones, except for one thing: How are we to know it won't happen again? I don''t feel very safe among these people.
And I'm STILL trying to find WORK... I'm close to being on the street... I feel very uncomfortable going to any govt. "assistance" or asking for handouts, which don't come anyway, trying to advertise my own business with NO money to do it, etc etc. I am hanging in there, and somehow I'm surviving, but it's scary, even though I am still here, by the Grace...
I love your writing, you are full of Good Stuff, soulful and kind... it's nourishing, my brother, just food for us all. Thanks.
And I don't feel safe around them, either. Snitches? Not unheard of... sadly. Scary.
Really sorry to hear that.
Thanks. I'll figure it out somehow, via Grace. xo
I might want to quote some parts of this if that's all right.
Hi Charles,
Please feel free to quote what you like. It's so important to voice this and it felt SO GOOD to articulate it. Thank you for asking for our thoughts.
Susan
Susan, I'm almost done writing the first installment of this series and I quoted one of your paragraphs. Hope that's OK, given that it is already on this public page. I referred to you as "Susan." Is that good or would you like me to add a last name, address, SS#, etc.?
You can use my first and last name and mention I live in Vermont. But we can leave out SS#, credit card #, voting record, medical history, and so on!
Thanks!
I think it is better to just use your first name, since that is what it is on the thread. But as you wish. I don't know your last name though! Hmm, and "Vermont" might be relevant too.
Just my first name is fine, and use Vermont or not, as you see fit!
Hi Susan, I am not sure what part of Vermont you are in, but we sure experienced and there are still echoes of it, the exclusionary measures in this state. There are places around me that still require proof of the shots to attend. I am on the edges of the upper valley, and we started a monthly or so potluck last August with other "dissidents" who happen to include a wide range of ideologies but most are/were of the progressive kind of mind set but now.... who knows since our eyes have been opened wide. Anyway, if you happen to be anywhere near us geographically, I would love to invite you to our next gathering.
Hi Tonya - We're in Bennington but my husband went to Dartmouth and lived in that area for a while so we'd would love to come for a gathering! And maybe we could talk about the UV heart idea! I think my email is on my Substack account so you should be able to see it by clicking on my name--I think that's how it works.
Susan, that is heartbreaking. I am so sorry you endured that. I totally understand your mix of emotions. I was flabbergasted by the number of people I thought I knew well who fell for the pandemic propaganda. What I felt the most betrayed by were the so-called religious and spiritual people who became mouthpieces and minions of fear.
Yes, Kandy, that's exactly how I feel--betrayed and confused by the alternatively minded, holistic, nature-loving, herbal, re-enchant-the-world, Gaia-loving spiritual folks who have bought all of this at face value and become germophobic and paranoid that only Big Pharma can save us.
I know! Me too.
As a progressive artist activist snd hypnotherapist I can assure you most of these green Gaia loving yoga practicing people are full of shit.
So well said, that’s the thing for me as well. How do we move on with these people, some of them cherished friends and community members, in a way that honors and respects the pain, anger, anxiety, etc that went with being excluded or shut down or simply disengaged with as a result of our (courageous) positions taken over the last two years.
I sooo relate to this! Thank you for sharing. You are not alone
Thanks, Kelsey. It really does help to have written this and see how many other people are struggling with the same feelings.
Susan, I SO relate. I wish you lived in my town, I want to have a music circle SO BADLY. And to bring back story-telling and poetry readings and all the good stuff I don't have anymore, and haven't had for almost 3 years now... Any chance you live in WA State, Kitsap Peninsula? ;)
Hello there! I live just north of Seattle and can empathize fully. I have so few unvaxxed friends, and while my good friends who are enthusiastically vaxxed want to understand me, they just can’t. I have felt such depths of loneliness at times.
And now, after Gov. Inslee’s recent proclamation that all government workers must be fully vaxed, I’m just stunned. I was a substitute teacher in high demand with a stellar reputation in a district that needs subs, and yet I have been “terminated” forever. It’s actually a blessing, because I have moved on to other, creative ventures, but I’m still angry that my school district and my state government are so…stupid. Why would I want to work for a district or state that doesn’t recognize the science that the vaxxed and unvaxxed are the same? I don’t know. But I still have to fight back the anger sometimes. (I still can’t sing in church choir, but at least mandates in Seattle were finally lifted so that I could see my son sing in his college choir and graduate summa cum laude in 3 years. Thankful I didn’t have to miss that!)
I'm so sorry. I know that depth of loneliness, and anger, too, especially at the friends who insist on "reasoning" with me about my "fear" of being vaccinated. But I've been fortunate because I work at home as a full time sculptor and that didn't change, and my husband and kids all work from home, too. We're really lucky that way.
I hope your creativity blossoms now that your time is more your own!.
It has!! I took some watercolor courses which is so much fun, and I also discovered I have a knack for sketching! I’m also working on a few children’s book ideas that I’ve had percolating since my teaching days. Our youngest (of six!) just graduated from college, so the need for extra funds is not so pressing. And I have reached out to find more like-minded friends. It’s all good, and I am blessed. I know I’m where I need to be. =)
Hello! Of course my immediate inclination is to move into your backyard and live in my tent.
The isolation is really hard! I'm so sorry for your situation with work, but really, it's those who submit that will suffer even more, perhaps... or maybe I've got it backwards, if death is a kind of freedom... I don't know, but it feels to me as though the concentration camps are not so unimaginable... Maybe we could start a business of our own... I'm always trying to find a way to be independent...
Maybe there is something going on in all this that we will welcome in time. The depths of these soulful exchanges in response to your message Susan is very heartening. Perhaps we are entering a time when our exchanges with others will be based on something more meaningful - a deeper connection. I am also an artist and was really quite shocked at the lack of backbone amongst my community. For me, art and freedom, cannot be so easily divided. We show a mirror to our communities - show/tell/record what we experience in the world around us. We ask questions of ourselves and of others - it is an important aspect of the nature of art. Even asking the question, “Isn’t this beautiful?” is revolutionary in that it acts as a disruptor to the norm - stops you in your tracks and changes the rhythm of your breath. We absolutely need the freedom to explore our world if we are to do our job - to ask our questions and lift that mirror for our communities. Maybe we will begin our new friendships based on our shared values and place these values above all other criteria. Of great importance for me is the opportunity to exchange my thoughts with friends openly and without fear. I’m genuinely interested in what other have to say and would be very happy to agree to disagree and part with an embrace as long as I knew that conversation took place in an open and safe sandbox with no threat of being shut down or cancelled. Thank you Charles for your insights and creating this safe place.
Yanagi and other artists, Team Left is working furiously to deconstruct any notion of beauty. After all, if something is beautiful, that means something else is less beautiful. And we can't have that because that's not "equal" or "fair", can we? This is why our culture is being flooded with ugliness on the reg.
Thankyou Yanagi, and Charles and everyone, so appreciate these musings! F*** yes, the lack of backbone! Wanted to say that, after doing a bunch of letting go ceremonies, and consciously exiting one community, one of the stickiest remaining experiences for me is how to come back from being excluded (as unvaxed) from a new, local feminist gallery and brewhouse in my country town. This new venue was set up by friends in the last year, and I so want to support them in their fledgling venture, but I feel an incredible dissonance between the profession of feminist values and the desire to share art that questions and awakens, and then the utter unquestioned disregard for body freedom and genuine consent without coercion. I have 'forgiven' them - ie. decided I don't want to hold onto this inner conflict and have it clogging up my energy, and so I released us all with love - but my body still doesn't want to go in there, and so I haven't. It remains a conundrum, a teaching, a clarification, and an invitation to trust the process...
Grace, I know exactly what you mean about wanting to be supportive and involved, but feeling too much dissonance. I may think I've let things go, and done ceremonies or other things to consciously release them, but then the pain crops up again, often with slicing intensity. I think it's because our bodies are more honest than our psyches, and that, because of socialization and genuine beliefs to be loving and so on, we're forgiving before we have allowed ourselves to feel the pain of exclusion and judgement. I think exile and banishment are the worst punishment society can mete out. We are hardwired for connection and love, and to be excluded is often worse than death. That's why this vax agenda has been so powerful and damaging--because it's exploiting our worst fears about aloneness and abandonment toward the goal of total compliance.
The science is the unvaxxed are MUCH healthier and the vaxxed are the ACTUALasumptomatic spreaders I learned this in nursing school in a slightly different variation. They informed us to always wear gloves with vaxxed children as we could get polio and other disease from them while changing their diapers. The truth is there if one looks
I wish we lived near each other and could play music together! Or dance, or sing! I have lost access to all those things--recorder groups, dance and music camps, jam sessions, contra dancing, harmony singing...I so miss them.
Part of the plan-demic, it seems. I have this new motto: Resist Not Evil-- Work Around It!
It's HOW to work around it that I'm struggling with... How to find my Tribe... Remember in grade school, we just went up to other kids and said, "Wanna be friends?"
Yes--exactly--how to find our Tribe. It's all turned on its head, now--what or who or where are the people who are part of our Tribe? And Tribe is so much more than relationships with people and family. That's Kin, but there's also Kith, a word that is almost obsolete in modern times. It's from the Old English sense of the Place you come from and the place you call home, that larger sense a loving, intimate, friendly relationship with the people,plants, animals, buildings, unseen things--the whole landscape and those that share it with you. And not only do you know and love it, but it knows and loves you back.
It's not just relationships with people that have been desecrated, it's relationships with Place, too. To me that's the biggest heartbreak. We're being systematically taught to mistrust and fear Nature and our sense of place in the world around us.
That you know about and understand the word "kith" puts you in my tribe for sure! ^_^
YAY!
I'd love to keep in touch... I don't usually yammer on so much on other people's pages, but Charles has such truly wonderful posts, and he's a magnet for KITH, the certain kind of kith that I'm looking for... Thinking about how to be respectful to Charles and not just publicly give out my email... You can see how desperate I am for some KITH!
Yay indeed! Not many people know the word kith much less understand it. I agree Charles is all about Kith, and that's so precious and rare. It would be lovely to be able to gather with others writing on this website. It does feel like a tribe.
I found your website and will try to contact you that way. Or you can contact me via mine: Flightofheart.com. I hope it's not uncouth (a word actually derived from "kith" originally, meaning "not from around here") to post my website here but I do want to stay in touch.
I’m too triggered by your wonderfully written post. As a Jew who lost half my family in the camps and a black sheep in the family who always did non mainstream things at the derision of all my family wfo always called me the crazy one I’m the only uninjected family member. I’ll never speak to these cretons again. I’m also a hypnotherapist. To deny you were treated like “ a dirty Jew” by all these sheep is to deny the invalidation of your soul. As sad as it is I’d create alternative groups with uninjected people. I’m sorry but these assholes deserve even MoRE of the truth of how disgusting they behaved. Not less.
ironically, when I said the same forces were at work in the persecutation of the unvaccinated as were at work behind the Holocaust, *I* got accused of anti-Semitism. By non-Jews.
send them my way and Ill happily deal with them. hs4265@protonmail.com
People need to understand how they have wronged you. Most do not. Also, in a group context ( I also have been dropped from social groups) -- some organizer might invite you back, but it is hard to know what others are thinking. I have opted to keep my distance because I am pretty sure that as soon as someone comes up with Covid, the group would be blaming me -- the unvaxed. The information on this is totally (and deliberately) misleading. Fortunately, I have a couple of friends who, while frowning on unvaxed, are willing to get together outdoors. My social life is scaled back, but I have other interests and will manage for now, until people really wake up to what us going on.
Yes, the blame for the unvaxxed is still happening, despite clear evidence it's the opposite. I have been working since pre-pandemic on an art commission for a luxury cruise line. The company has an environmental ethic and is wonderful to work for, and it has been a dream job. Part of my compensation was supposedly going to be get to go on a cruise on one of the ships my work is for. It would have been a trip of a lifetime. But their Covid policy is extremely strict so that was no longer an option.
However, I just heard from a passenger who contacted me about my work that she and members of her group came down with Covid on the ship--despite every possible precaution! There is no way to blame unvaxxed folks. I wonder/hope the company might revisit their policy and i could go, but I think political pressure against that is too strong.
I still hope, though, that some wealthy and powerful companies will see what's really happening and stand up to the Orwellian script. It would only take a few brave companies to start the unraveling.
This is EXTREMELY well written, and I feel every word. You expressed so much here that I am feeling. The mix of emotions is so real.
I feel this.!!
Hi Susan... I’m so sorry to read all you explain here... and I’m wondering, which country are you in?
I’m in Germany and, so far in Europe, us - the unvxx - are not forbidden to go anywhere (at least that I’m aware of and we travel a lot thorough Europe). We were completely cutt off from everywhere during the 2 years of plandemic, but now “magically” we can go and do as everyone else, vxx or not. Literally. (Anf you don’t need tests or any type of “documents” anywhere, not even to travel within Europe). This, in itself, is also suspicious.
Hi Ximena - I'm in Vermont, USA, and things are varied here. There are as yet no state or federal bans that I'm aware of, but private institutions make their own rules and it's chaotic. I can get dental work, massage, haircuts, etc. and eat in all but a few restaurants, but many performance venues, festivals, dance events and museums have strict vax-only rules. What's hardest is personal friends who are terrified, and more informal events like music groups, book clubs, singing workshops, etc. that all require vaccination and boosters. It seems the more "progressive" and socially liberal a group is, the more virtue signaling they do--and I do think much of the vaccination uptake in my community is about showing how much you care about others (ironically).
Ugh, Susan. Your story of being excluded is very sad. It's pretty bad here in MA, I live in one of the most liberal and progressive of cities, right down the street from the hallowed halls of Hahvahd. All of the universities and medical centers here are on board with jabs/boosters for ALL, no questions or exemptions allowed. I did lose touch with super militant vaxx-crazed friends who thought I should be barred from public spaces but found other friends who despite being obedient vaccinees, were not afraid of me and dared to be in my presence. It was so odd to witness the shift of the "vaccinated", at first it was "we're worried about YOU" to "we are afraid of and resent you".
Local bars I've frequented for live music for 30 years now exclude me despite the fact that I had Covid in May and recovered fine. Yet a possibly infectious 4x jabbed person is welcome to enter. There is at least one restaurant here that won't even let un-injected sit on their patio. It is patently absurd as at my healthcare (remote) job and in my personal life I see dozens upon dozens of 3-4x jabbed getting sick with symptomatic illness and of course, expressing their gratitude for the "vaccine" for keeping them out of the hospital.
Despite having valid medical reasons for foregoing experimental injections, I was mistreated by close relatives last year and it's going to take some time to forgive. I try to feel compassion for they were clearly brainwashed by fear porn and caught up in the mass formation. Today I'm trying to enjoy the long summer days in full swing as I have a creeping sense of trepidation about what the fall may bring.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I live in VT right on the border of MA and it's true they seem more rigid than VT, but it does vary wildly and chaotically. It IS going to take a while to get over the pain, and to forgive, much as i wish I could be more magnanimous.
My husband and I joke that since we've all been branded with the equivalent of the scarlet letter, we should come up with some kind of a symbol for unvaccinated people, like the early Christian fish or the LBGTQ rainbow, so we can wear our pins and wink at each other or post a window decal to demonstrate acceptance and welcome. Maybe an ultraviolet heart with "U.V." in the middle of it, because dammit, we've all been wounded in action by this horror.
Love this idea! :)
Oh, I love this idea - let's do this the heart with U.V. in the middle!
Wow Susan... this is so revealing...
Interestingly Germany ULTRA reacted together with Austria (as you probably heard). Those of us who chose to opt out of the craze were completely banned from EVERYWHERE for 2 years (my partner and I were even made a public example of and rudely kicked out from supermarkets and pharmacies for not wearing a mask EVEN when we had medical exceptions and those are first necessity places) and so many people lost their jobs to that. Then, suddenly, they lift EVERY rule they set up and everyone is virtually free to go as they please.
And I wonder... how are they justifying that now you don't need a vxx to work to the people they literally forced to get it or lose their income? What do they say to them? Come back? Or, oh I fired you because you didn't want to comply but now I'm hiring people regardless of their vx status? Or, oh, yes, you HAD to get it to keep your job but now I'm hiring people who didn't get it and don't have to get it...
Honestly... it gets messier and messier by the day.
I hear that. I'm in WA... very similar. And getting a lot of "Are you vaxxed?" responses to job applications, along with a LOT of silence, for whatever reason, too. (They probably see my stance on Substack! lol)
I can relate. My family and some friends did this, but your whole community, can't be easy. I think it's also going to take me some time to figure it out how or if to re-enter into these relationships.
My feeling is the 2 years of “pandemic” were just the bare beginning. People seem to think it’s over when, in fact, only the first part of the experiment has been completed (wether it was successful regarding its intentions or not, is beyond me. Probably it was quite successful but not completely). So, I’d love to hear where you think we’re towards now and which goals you think they achieved during this experiment (and which are still to be reached).
Very well put.
As I commented above, things have not let up for anyone who opposed the narrative, like doctors who treated with ivermectin or the truckers. They are being punished so that we all know to keep quiet and go with the narrative next time. We need to stand with these people.
Made an example of. Very true
Your totally right , the goal is a normalisation of many things we would have never accepted before , its also been an exercise to machine learn the Ai ' Crisis ' and response of populations . The use of Ai and Behavioural modelling by ' nudge units ' in governments is very troubling as the Ai can pre map response of entire populations like a game of chess 15 moves ahead . The situation we are in is way way worse than many will admit but and its a big but this is an aspect of a Total revolution of our species .
Those in power did not achieve everything , they have pre laid the table shall we say , pre loaded some peoples minds with thoughtforms like ' anti vax ' and there no1 tool is Mass formation psychosis which they program using Ai , this is the dark force we are against , that and human apathy and Fear of admitting where we are as a species . Very few will admit where we are as a species which is under the control of Psychopaths and Sociopaths and Narcissists and those types simply never learn , they do not give up , they do not feel what we all feel , they have one Law and thats to do for themselves what benefits them . They will not stop ,. they will have to be stopped , not sure how yet . I think we are in a Class war of a kind.
Peace , the opposite of this will come , no fear , faith and personal will are all thats needed and Truth
Very good point about having used the population response as a way to train AI so, in future “crisis” they can be ahead of us
Exactly right!!
Yes, well said, brother.
Very well stated, thank you.
Rebuilding trust: yes, that’s a big issue, but I also think that it has been shattered beyond repair. I have always been a skeptic anyway, but these last two years have deepened it to the point where I no longer pay any attention to anything or anyone purporting to be a mainstream health authority. There’s just too much cynicism in my mind and I immediately suspect they are either dupes or have some other nefarious intent.
How to go forward from here: what is needed is a way around it, a new medical underground, so to speak, that deals in concrete, useful and actionable information about COVID and other respiratory illnesses, like medicine used to be before the government and/or insurance lobbyists interfered and shot it all to hell.
The “new” medical underground isn’t new at all, but has been here well before the allopathic pharma mafia was formed. It is terrain theory and homeopathy and Chinese medicine, and everything else that never attributed illness and disease to one invisible cause and claimed only one pathway (injections and pills) to wellness.
It doesn’t discuss the body in terms of purported invaders that can only be viewed dead and stained under an electron microscope. It doesn’t describe an immune “system” with role players like T cells and ACE receptors; rather, it speaks of toxicity and stress, cleansing and healing.
The entire paradigm is backwards. Germ theory is a fraudulent lie.
Yes! And Charles, please re-examine your belief in germs. It is the germ paradigm by which the dark powers continue to exert control and block healthy relationship to the world and to all our brother and sister beings. That fraudulent hold must be broken. You could help.
Perhaps in time, when we can really bring on the natural medicine again, the holistic, naturopaths, homeopaths, all the folks who use Nature's own medicines and truly Do No Harm... we will re-build our trust, because healing is natural, it's essential, and we are not static, stagnant Things, we are part of the Flow. One day we'll look back and be glad we were able to see the Good after all this hellish Covid and Pharma nastiness... Sending you some hugs, Lizzy D.
For me personally, I don’t think trust in government and medical “authorities “ can ever be rebuilt. It was already waning pre-Covid and is basically gone forever now...
And good riddance. People have been waking up to the lie of pharmacology for some time now. It's wonderful to be here on the brink of a New Phase, where we can use our vast stores of science and health to DO THE RIGHT THING for a change, and forever more! I so hope I will be around to see the dawn, and some of the day, of the New Era comin' in. Yeah.
Hi Charles,
For me the most damaging issue that still lingers on post-Pan and has cost the "still living" lives, is the sad departure of most of my lifetime friends of 20-40 yrs and some family relationships. This has hurt so deeply that I sometimes wonder if we would be better off if we had of died from Covid. Finding out that there was conditions to the love you thought you had is the deep hurt. Isnt the very definition of love to have it come unconditionally? Living with the pain of knowing that people you thought were your friends and family that eliminated you is the fallout, the wounded soldier and broken spirit. Is it due to their altruistic- virtue -condescension and criticism. Using their new found "V status" as a reason to lord over others in superiority and unconsciously or consciously finding ways to divide themselves from their "loved peoples"- Over a V? REALLY? Insert shock, awe, & much disbelief. What was and is still missing in the hearts of people that they could expect the non V to accept their choices of being V yet in turn could not reciprocate the same to others? And now these same persons are unwilling to mend the broken relationships, hence making it it last well beyond the Pandemic. Back to normal is it? Masks off? I say not. My guts hurt from the pain of loss and bewilderment. Not just one but 7 people. Its as though they cant come back to you now because they may have to accept and face their own inner Miser, their own Judge and Jury- who hanged the innocent men & women. The un V (how we ever got this as a prefix?) are not guilty of any crime, yet we are sentenced to a life-enduring penalty. To me, the Pandemic in this context, is not over. We may not see the damage visually as we pass eachother in the supermarket, but this is because we wear the scars unseen hidden inside our broken hearts.
It's because the V became a symbol of in-group affiliation, a badge of virtue.
Your words have a lot of passion and heart, I may quote them in the essay if that's all right.
I agree with you, Charles. But, why is that badge, affiliation, so important to some that they will cast off long caring relationships? Or, do they not even realize what they do because they are so consumed by fear?
Good question!
This is not the first time in history that brother has turned against brother.
Of course and would be my honour to be included. Thank you Charles for all you do.
I feel with you Patricia and I too was subject to alot of blaming, shaming, labeling as many of us. I too feel hurt at times. Yet, the way I see it is that this is like an accelerated workshop to wake up to consciousness. To me it is important not to get stuck in the hurting. Our very essence can not ever be hurt. And I feel that is where the solution for us as humanity lies - to find back to our divinity. And I don't mean that new agey at all. And I don't mean that in any religious way. Spirituality to me, can not be conditioned on any concept. If we find back to our common core and source then we will be able to know we are one humanity I believe.
Yes yes yes!!
Such potent words, thankyou for taking the time to share... "their own inner Miser, their own Judge and Jury- who hanged the innocent men & women." Wow.
It isn't over in my world, either. Two days ago I brought my daughter to a physical therapy appointment and was told to remove my cloth mask and replace it with a brand new disposable one. I expressed my concern that the harms of single use plastic might outweigh the immediate risks. The conversation escalated and the staff quickly went into a defensive mode where any discussion was impossible and we were told we had the "choice" to go somewhere else where the policy is different or to leave. I was so angry and so shocked. I wished I could have been more calm and persistent, wished I had more facts and data I could have shared effectively, wished that I didn't feel so emotional about it all. My daughter also just was notified that unvaccinated can't attend the summer dance intensive she has been signed up for since February. We had to sign a religious exemption form in order to attend. It is not going away here in MA.
Yeah, my dentist is in MA and when I went last month I had to wait on the cement pavement outside because of the mask thing. I was able to stay calm and friendly, that time, but not every time, and in fact I think it might actually be helpful to display our anger and shock. because then people know we are serious and are having strong feelings. It lands.
Yes, I was denied dental care when I needed it because I was unjabbed. I was in a lot of pain. I became almost hysterical with panic as I realised I had to deal with it on my own. Which I did. I feel like I stepped into a space which is all but forgotten. Or at least, the medical/pharma pillars would have us forget. Pain, self-healing, herbs, kindness, faith (in love) paved a pathway to a new confidence in myself and my body - and also our collective innate powers to weather what life brings us. ALL things about the human condition, including physical pain need to be accepted. There is such a trend to expect, demand even, a life without physical suffering. The triumph of a body that suffers and recovers gives strength and joy to every level of being, physical, emotional and spiritual. Gratitude and kindness spread like a balm. I don't have a being to lay that gratitude before but I feel it when I connect with the trees, the clouds and the smell of the earth. Steadfast patience, transmutability and the power beneath our feet. Charles, you are a leading part of such enormous and important change, thank you. I am an eternal optimist and so heartened about the possibility of how we can come together to live in right relation with nature and each other. Keep it up!
What a beautiful comment. I hug you from afar, if that's alright! Wow.
I am unsure about how best to present also. Do I show my dissatisfaction or do I be nice??
Personally, I think “nice” is how we got to this wretched place, and that “nice” is in fact being systematically leveraged against us.
Niceness has become weaponized.
“We don’t want to make a scene, right? Just do what we’re asking...”
Why has everything become about the comfort of others? Why should we apologize for being whole, feeling humans? I think it’s time we start showing our true feelings a little more.
I agree with you. If we never say anything, people will not know that anybody is questioning and standing against what is being prescribed. It's the cost of the energy we have to put into speaking out then protecting ourselves against what comes back. I also don't think I've made a jot of difference to any mask-wearing, msm addicted believers, in fact I know some have written me off. So in doing one 'right' thing by speaking up in the 'debate', I've invited negative attitudes toward me to come back. It is a hard one. Even so, I know me and I will always speak out!
See my above comment. I couldn’t agree more
I strive to be honest and speak from the heart. I realize in these adversarial situations it is challenging but for me it is always the goal.
Also, this stuff about wanting to leave the dance world entirely, this is what I'm thinking about when I speak of building a parallel society.
Good luck navigating things for your daughter. I warily, and angrily, await to learn what new things my son will be blocked from. I fear things will get VERY BAD in the Fall. I know that feeling of wishing you weren't so angry. I couldn't agree more... "Things aren't going away here in MA."
My daughter is learning from it all, at least there is something positive. She is wondering if she even wants to enter the 'dance world' based on what we can see of how things operate. These situations are really awful for families where one parent disagrees with the other or where the child has been convinced that parents are wrong in refusing to vax. I am seriously considering moving but not sure where to run to.
I am a mom going through similar issues. It was all too much this winter in MA. And still People remain under a vax spell. Yesterday someone emailed me out of the blue full of hate saying I should be locked in my home until the pandemic is “over.” The writing is on the wall in MA. They are trying to get rid of the religious exemption. Get out while you can. I am moving to NH next month.
I’d get a restraining order against this person. I’m serious. That’s a threat. I don’t deal well being threatened. I’d get a judge to issue a restraining order. Then I’d make that person violate it and call the cops to arrest them. I’m no longer playing around. I’m from MA. Live in Denver.
Sorry to hear about that email. Awful. It's impossible to get my head around the animosity. My sister in Colorado says that people there are questioning things and starting to talk. I don't see that even starting to happen here. I agree the writing is on the wall here in MA. I hadn't heard they're trying to get rid of the religious exemption. Good to know. Good luck with your move and being a mom in NH. With 'live free or die' on every license plate, I can only imagine and hope that it will be a better place to stand your ground.
Oh gosh, I hear you. Yes, that 'how things operate' is potentially so deeply embedded in EVERYTHING. The lessons have been as steep for me as for our son. My husband was already there. We've been lucky that we share the belief that whatever it takes, we will refuse our son being a part of the experiment. So far, we've been lucky. Our son agrees. But, he's 12, and I worry what would happen if being left out becomes too much for him. I think moving would have to be the answer. But, ya, I'm not sure where.
Such senseless stupidity. It's seriously bad here in Maskachusetts. I'm a lifelong resident and how just over 60, I am wondering if I'll be forced to leave.
My response has been aggressive and Vocal. “ I have a medical exemption under ADA. Do you know what ADAis? Are you aware I can and will sue you personally and the facility if my ADA rights aren’t respected ? Are you saying you still want to violate my federally protected rights ? I’m recording all this. “ 9/10 x these bastards back the hell down. I’m DONE playing
This reminds me a hat I did wonder how plastics were so banned and awful and then suddenly in COVID it was fine and even expected.
I would be curious to hear about how we can reconnect with old friends who have remained inside the old paradigm. I have wrestled with how to forgive friends who attacked my character when I explained how I saw the situation. Must we truly find all new communities or can we traverse between the simulation and the new space.
We joke about living on Planet Bob (a reference from the old movie Titan AE), to describe the societal split that’s happening, and I think will continue to happen. Parallel society building, as Charles said, seems to be an exciting solution.
My kids have never been in gov schools. We’ve been suspicious of the medical monopoly even longer. Owning land, building gardens and co-ops and wellness centers and hosting potlucks...this seems life-affirming and collaborative.
I don’t want to shrink and censor myself to maaaybe, hopefully get along w folks who are still righteously following the narrative.
yes this is a question on my mind a lot right now. Seeing as I was just "invited" back into their company I have not yet found the answer. I think it will be hard to build trust again if no apology or recognition of the impact of their choices and words is forthcoming, but I took will be seeking a way to move forward that feels compassionate and practices loving kindness.
So much rebuilding to do Charles society seems shattered , if there were many pieces one could hope for nuance . However it seems less a shattering and rather more a fault line through the middle . Metaphorically a wall is being erected between two distinct beliefs / narratives . I’ve been directly affected for my own choices , however I’ve done my best to assimilate the choices of others . The defining motive being the great evolution of compassion and understanding , I believe we had reached this place pre 2020 now I’m not too sure . There are many things the power and strength of your writing might address :
What now for right and left politics
How much industrial medicine should we now be thinking of in our lives
How do we create natural fitness , how do we learn to accept death
How do we open up discussion between groups how can we express nuance without appearing indecisive
Mostly Charles where is the love now ? Certainly it’s not in red pill / blue pill - awake / non awake beliefs and labelling . It’s in love - action whatever that might take to see other ? What are your thoughts
With love Charles , I wait in expectation of your writing
Taking sides is still righteousness energy, still playing the victim/aggressor role. I believe cultivating neutrality is where we find peace, and liberation from this false choice.
As a hypnotherapist and Jew with half my family dead in the camps neutrality is the reason they were murdered. People need to stay on the side of ethics and what’s right. I don’t want or need neutrality or correctness.
I understand your strong feeling Jane especially with the demise of your family . I don’t feel the ethics are at this point yet when the science still remains relative . Objection has not found either side in extermination “ “camps “. The fight against mandates has been largely successful , Austria the most ardent of these has now dropped all such pressure on its public . Many Academics agree more on the ineffectiveness of lockdowns . We are still luckily enough at a learning phase where discussion and openness could win the day . Certainly the maintenance of binaries is in itself a “trance “ maintained by many Empires and it this in fact that leads people to do terrible things against “ other “
Fran, thanks for the response. I want to push back slightly. If you are saying the ethics arent clearly on the side of NO shots, Im not sure what youre using to defend the stance since literally there are thousands of actual scientific papers by world leading vaccinologists and immunologists and cardiologists showing severe death and injury. VAERS alone shows that with only 1% reporting. Currently approx 51,000 Dead Americans and over 1.7 million severely permanently injured ( not including the moderately and minimally injured which are probably most of the injected based solely on the over 1291 SEVERE reactions listed by Phizer who was forced by a court to release the evidence and data they asked the courts to keep secret for 75 years. Multiply those 2 numbers above by minimally 40x and thats a CONSERVATIVE estimate of real injury /death data. And that data is smaller but similar since 1973 onward and more after The 1986 Act which released NON tested Childrens vaccines on children which killed and injured babies and children for decades. VAERS is very clear.
Krystal and Fran: And sometimes we come up against those who will ONLY play the aggressor role (as in, psychopaths). I'd like to hear what you might think about how to address being attacked by someone, or a group of people, who want you as a victim, don't care about harming you and actively desire it, and are scornful of your suffering.
I understand the THEORY, but the REALITY is more difficult, especially when simply leaving the scene, as it were, is not a good option.
Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what happens. ^_^
To me, this is where the warrior-in-a-garden adage becomes handy. There’s a difference between being peaceful (choosing to stay neutral unless attacked directly) and being harmless…meaning, you cannot or will not defend yourself even if a direct threat occurs.
Indeed. What I'm interested in, as to your thoughts, is about when one is attacked directly. I'm not looking for a definition, but what you think, philosophically about the decision of action or non-action.
I like your response
Word herder as a man of mixed race in this world both black and white set me out as victim and and don’t have full membership of either group in the eyes of some . Membership I’ve learned from being on the outside is unnecessary and we learn so much from aloness . There will always be psychopaths and sociopaths what they need is victims and the freedom from victimhood is through the self . Sometimes great knowledge comes from aloness , from quiet from discovering one’s own identity . There’s always a danger that aloneness gets mistaken for lonliness it’s not , neither is it a place where we watch envious or craving for acceptance . So Wordhealer from experience nothing is more healing in my experience than peace .
I somehow missed this until today...
I agree that nothing is more healing than peace. It's not easy to find peace when someone is actively trying to take you down, and the real victims are other people who can't fight back effectively.
I am in a situation of that kind. I know my identity pretty well, and it's not the issue. The issue is persecution and false accusations and through that causing harm to vulnerable others.
Thanks for your response, too.
Word healer persecution is tough false accusations when you alone have to hold your integrity . It must be so hard , a very difficult time for you
Thanks, Fran, understanding and acknowledgement does wonders. Plus, I am giddy with the farmers' protests, and the federal case against Biden in Utah, with David E. Martin at the helm, and the ever-fucking Guidestones being blown up... It DOES help! I'll survive this and be stronger...
Thank you, Fran!
Yes Krystal , each side finding a justification to marginalise the other .
George Carlin said:
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
( sorry for the vernacular )
Peace can never be achieved within the victim / aggressor cycle , you are right and well put
Great thoughts. Yes, yes, yes.
I don't feel like we've moved on from Covid at all in NH. People are still wearing masks (tho not as many) and jabs are still mandated for many jobs. All my friends are vaxxed and boosted and they love it! No changing any of their minds. They want to shame people who are unvaxxed, like me. My son couldn't be a guide on a canoe trip in Maine because he wasn't jabbed, so it feels to me like we are a long way from being beyond Covid. It doesn't seem like the powers-that-be are going to let us go back to normal life EVER.
Same here in WA state where our governor has held executive power for over 850 days and just decreed permanently that all government workers must be fully vaxxed.
I live in a lovely part of the world, and yet the oppression is so thick I sometimes find it hard to breathe. I have felt such depths of loneliness because I have so few friends who are unvaxxed, who truly understand my experiences. And I worry about my family members and friends who are vaxxed, what the future holds for them. I pray a lot (and believe in prayer), but it doesn’t always seem to help my rising blood pressure (which I feel rising just by typing all this out!).
I am so sorry, teacherlori8. I could have written the same thing so I know the feeling deeply. It's impossible to try and explain what we're going through to those who are vaxxed because they would say it's our own doing since we could just get the shots. It IS very lonely now. The only thing that helps me is my family and extended family remain unvaxxed, though 2 families moved away to Utah and Montana due to the mandates in Mass (Vaxxichusettes). This just isn't going away and it's very painful.
Vaxxichusetts indeed. I can immediately think of 9 or 10 friends here with obvious "vaccine" injuries. Mostly all in denial. One friend with new onset arrhythmia and dizziness shortly after her booster initially called me saying she thought she "had myocarditis from the booster". I felt her pulse (I'm an RN) and it was highly irregular. She has since pivoted to "it was the coffee...it was wine....it was dehydration....it was lack of sleep...it was from being in the mountains". A couple of weeks ago she decided: "It was definitely from wine".
I'm very worried that she is being pressured to get #4. I'm leaving out stories of their family members with sudden strokes after "vaccination", etc.
I’m the mother of 6 adult kids, two who are married. The older 4 plus spouses are all happily vaxxed. The younger 2 are adamantly not. For a while there was a bit of division in my family over this (all because we care about each other so much and the concern for each other is great), but we seem to have worked around it. We don’t talk about opinions on anything covid-related in order to keep harmony. I still worry greatly (and pray a lot). Most extended family is vaxxed but not boosted.
I hear you. Much love to you and yours. XO
When most of them are injured or dead trust me they’ll wake up. And you and I will be alive.
Oh no. Here in MA I've been considering NH as a back up plan. Sad face. I hear FL is getting very crowded with escapees.
Where in MA are you? I keep wishing we had some kind of gathering in this area (I'm in southwestern VT) like another woman mentioned in NH.
I'm next to Boston in an undisclosed location. ;-) Through a couple of like-minded friends I've been able to connect with other "dissenters" and attended a local gathering recently.
Nice. I'm glad you've found kindred spirits. There's a small group in my town but it hasn't met for a while.
Hello Charles. Before posting this comment I spent a little time looking at what others commenters had to say and, in truth, I relate to much of what has already been written. I, too, feel cynical and unable to trust authorities, experts and mainstream media. I, too, am angry and fear that we may have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to societal manipulation and control. I, too, am worried about the future of my children and grandchildren. That said, I believe the changes that have taken place, especially over the past few years, stem from a place of attachment (whether it's our penchant for accumulating and consuming things or, more insidiously, our attachment to thoughts, ideas and opinions, i.e. right and wrong) and ego dominated thinking. I often feel caught between two worlds and wonder if others feel that way as well. It's easy, for instance, to become drawn into (and enraged by) the latest controversy, albeit vaccines, the Great Reset, the most recent SCOTUS decisions, and on and on. And every time my ego draws me in, it feels familiar - perhaps even comfortable - as though I've been here before. Many times. (I remember similar feelings of conflict and anger arising when the US invaded Iraq...again, similar feelings, different context.) Have you ever taken a road trip in a car that only has an AM/FM radio? Remember the static that happens when you begin to drive out of range of the radio station? At first it's barely noticeable but before long it becomes nerve wracking and unbearable. That's what our world feels like. The static is deeply pervasive...it keeps us from hearing, seeing and knowing that this is not how life is meant to be. Perhaps it comes down to making a conscious decision not to let the static become overwhelming but if that's the case, I have tried time and again and have not been successful. I suppose my question - or what I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on - is this: How can we create the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible while at the same time being pulled back into the world of attachment and ego and the continual, destructive feelings of conflict, betrayal, anger that accompany it? We were not meant to live this way. Thank you, dear Charles, for all you do to inform and inspire others.
Love the radio static metaphor. Yeah it totally is like that.
It seems to me that the most urgent thing is to regain our awareness to the fact that we are powerful creative beings, divine in nature. We have taken a 'wrong turn' somewhere and live in the mistaken belief that the world of form and phenomena is everything. Our identification with and focus on the mundane keeps us trapped in the illusion of separation. This, I feel, is the root of our crisis. It is a crisis of consciousness. While we are working through the housing crisis, the financial crisis, the Corona crisis, the war, the climate crisis, an economic crisis, and whatever other crises may come, all the while we are overlooking the fact that all of this is just the outer form of our collective consciousness. How can we find our way back to the spiritual creator being that we really are?
I apologize for my poor english, it's been a while since I lived in the USA, my english gets rusty.
The US has moved on and other places maybe mentally. However just to the north, Canada still quarantined the unv’d and is making statements about boosters for flying this fall. We still wear masks in certain places. General practitioners are asking for in-patient (think: paps) to be double v’d. People are quite sick in what seems like a constant rotation here in Ontario. Many relationships that ruptured have not repaired. The dissonance is still very high and most are focused on inflation naturally. Curious to see how you float this conversation.
I should also mention as it hasn’t been spoken about anywhere, I spent a few months traveling Mexico, seeing if it would be a possible future. Mexican’s are interesting, overall a very submissive culture. If something is to be done it seems it’s done covertly. Meaning unless it’s time for a revolution (which is not a distant reality in that country) they go with the flow. If they disagree you wouldn’t know (as that could disrupt their personal security and those they are close to if the winds are strong enough in the opposite direction). Meanwhile in Canada many of us didn’t realize - it’s the same up here. People will turn their backs which is destabilizing. The difference with Canadians - we don’t have the language or history to acknowledge this is what is happening. We, unlike our US neighbours, are steeped in a deafening silence that is a signature of our culture. So it’s no surprise everyone is sick here, may that be a side effect of v’s, lack of exposure due to our excessive isolation/lockdowns, or repression and denial manifesting physically.
In short I’ve come to believe that all of these outcomes are from a place that everyone detects threat and is acting from survival instinct no matter how it’s dressed up or down. We are animals and we know there’s a deep and very profound change afoot. My concern is Canada is small enough and docile enough, with so many reliant on a single payer (gov) for their livlihoods that we may serve as an example first. Mexico will do what it always has, work under uncertainty and do their best. I worry for their jobs and if they’ll be given a safety net. America will be the experimentation ground to show what those who conform get and what rebels get. Each country is a Petri dish of its own. CoVid …. is just a medium to work it through.
My partner and I ( both american) spent the two covid years traveling throughout Mexico, Central and South America. We were unvaccinated the entire time and managed to find ways to travel generally unfettered, except for the initial lockdown of a couple of months, when we were in Belize. I found that very few countries had similar fears as the people I spoke with in the United States. Some wore masks indoors, especially in the larger cities, but mostly people went on with their lives and were not afraid. And we met many people from other countries who felt as we did, they were out traveling as well because they did not fall for any of the predominant western narratives. Nobody questioned us about our vaccination status ever except in airports and we were not required to be for any of our flights, buses, taxis etc. Our American friends thought we were reckless I'm sure, but we are healthy and did get covid in Ecuador, and it was very minor. I think the lesson for me is that much of the hysteria came from media and governmental and corporate fear-mongering, while people in other countries pay a little attention to that sort of rot. It felt much more civilized to be away from the United States for those two years. Traveling kept me sane.
Situation is still very bad in Canada, agreed. Yet Canada has the lowest rate of booster uptake of any "G7" country, I have heard. Gives me hope for us.
Most people I know who are v’d did it feeling like they had to. Barely anyone thought it was necessary. It was boomers who refused to see grandkids, having to travel for US based jobs (or gov jobs) or being excluded from social networks that sealed the deal. 100% of those asked who aren’t boomers think the booster is bs. The university students seem to gobble it up. Being ostracized is likely the main component or refused admission to classrooms. Everyone is sick frequently. Praying for the best in all of this.
We have not fully moved on here in the Bay Area (mostly Berkeley and Oakland.) People are still wearing n95s outside and masking their children. Many businesses still require masks. My friend's autistic son is still required to wear a mask at his school in Marin. Alameda County issued a 3 week mask mandate (the only county in the US to do so in "post-Covid" times!) and it was shown it made NO difference compared to neighboring Contra Costa county which is very similar to Alameda in makeup and size. The health officer of Alameda, when shown this data by a reporter (Eric Ting of SF Gate), said "We believe it made a difference." So how do we move on when people are clinging to this and still so anti-science and using "belief" over facts? How do we break localities out of this brainwashed state, that attaches masks and Covidian religiosity to being politically moral and woke? Because some of us who are sane still have to live in these areas and it's utterly depressing...
“So how do we move on when people are clinging to this and still so anti-science and using "belief" over facts? How do we break localities out of this brainwashed state, that attaches masks and Covidian religiosity to being politically moral and woke? Because some of us who are sane still have to live in these areas and it's utterly depressing...”
Exactly... this is it right here. Best of luck to you, feel your pain and depression. It’s utterly discouraging.
Jenny - There’s a really great group of health freedom and home school people in the area called Luminary Village. Maybe you can connect with them and find some solace and support among the few reality-based people in Alameda.
These comments really resonate with me as I am also angry. I'm sure there is a great desire to just move on without really understanding or even caring to understand. This would be a very grave error. We have all been through something, much gas lighting, censorship, disparagement of alternative voices, outright attempts to remove medical credentials, coercion manipulation lies. I think it is incredibly important to know that we who see this reality are many. I would also like to understand how Mass formation occurred in this case, and what we can all do to not be part of it in the future, and to help wake up those who fell for it this time. Because I believe the attempt will be made to use the same tactics for any number of politically or profitably motivated hysteria in the future. This is not over by any means, it was a successful operation but for us.
Congratulations on the new book Charles!
Your writing and discussions have been crucial for surviving and keeping our sanity these last two years.
I feel like this is far from over and I don't mean the virus but the "emergency measures".
Here in Greece where I live, we had some of the worst measures and response to Covid. People who refused the jab, were treated as second class citizens to put it mildly.
But it is not over. Just of yesterday Greece’s highest court, the Council of State has ruled that the mandatory vaccination against Covid-19 for those aged over 60 is “constitutionally tolerable” and the monthly fine of 100 euros per month is a “reasonable motive” .
(https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2022/06/30/greece-cos-mandatory-vaccination-constitutional-fine-reasonable/)
Moreover they will role out digital IDs here from July on. All these seems like we are up to a really tough fall coming in September.
The majority has accepted it all without much opposition.
Seems like when it comes to "health" and "safety" the majority of people is ready to accept the worst dicatorship... :(((
So I don't know what to expect. It would be great if you could talk about some of these issues.
will do