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TriTorch's avatar

If you happened to study pizzagate ten years ago, then none of this is new to you, and at some point people are going to wake up to the fact that all of this is a horrific stage production, with terrible actors, and the citizens are unwitting extras in this loathsome movie with real consequences.

The politicians and bureaucrats are all bought, blackmailed, and bribed and reading literal scripts, and as the show gets deliberately more ludicrous and outrageous (demoralizing mentacide), so does their digital ID, 15 minute CBDC prison get closer to reality. One morning you'll wake up to find they are:

"taking down the scenery, pulling back the curtains, moving the tables and chairs out of the way and showing you the brick wall at the back of the theater.” -Zappa

We have to act to save ourselves, because no one is coming to our rescue. Here is how: We first need to build a platform of local strength, self-reliance, and resiliency. Once done, and we have a solid foundation from which to stand, from there we begin working on taking back the higher levels: county, state, federal.

The following solutions were crowdsouced from various forums across the web. I have distilled them into this:

The solution is to get local, get self-reliant, get the common unity back in community by building webs of resilience with your neighbors, get control of your school boards, mayors and sheriff's office, and town councils (the last places we still hold all of the cards), get a garden in your lawn no matter how small, a single tomato plant is better than nothing, get a well (water is your most important resource hands down), get ready, get moving, get doing, and, if so inclined, get God.

Everyone is looking for a savior instead of looking in the mirror. We are the ones we've been waiting for.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

Pizzagate was a key landmark for me. Most people don't know why it was initially called that. It wasn't because of a pizza restaurant in DC. It was because the leaked Podesta emails had these weird out-of-place references to pizza, things like "we'll get the pizza from our usual source in Chicago." (I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along those lines.) Well, "pizza" was pedophilia slang for underage girls.

Love the suggestion of building local connections and resiliency. Even if none of this Epstein stuff were true, it is still a good idea.

TriTorch's avatar

Thank you Mr. Eisenstein. Agree, we have no other choice other than to solve this ourselves when our '“Leaders” are child predators, which is break-the-scale level wickedness. And even if they weren’t, self-reliance is key to personal and national defense.

We can’t vote our way out of this connundrum. I originally wrote this a few years ago to galvanize my readers—you may find some value in it: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/apathy-is-the-fire-in-which-we-burn-v3

Jessica Rios's avatar

🙏🏼 Yes to looking in the mirror. And from there, “through Love,, all pain will turn to medicine” as Rumi knew. 🪞

Frank's avatar

We are the ones we've been waiting for. Exactly TriTorch well said. Now we need to act.

TriTorch's avatar

You got, because the only one on the American citizen’s side is us:

Here are well over a dozen Fox, CBS, ABC, & NBC local news stations all reading an identical script sent down from their singular overlord to crash & burn alternative media in order to enhance the Oligarchy’s Overwhelming threat to our democracy:

https://substack.com/@tritorch/note/c-208406729

Ultimately we are not consuming news. We are consuming a product manufactured by the richest men in human history, and that product is designed to do one thing: keep us so busy fighting our neighbors that you never notice the chains being fastened around our wrists.

ann lewis's avatar

The mainstream media is not there to bring you the 'news'. They exist for the sole purpose of shaping your perception.

TriTorch's avatar

Yes.

From the Congressional Record, January 27, 1917: JP Morgan, Steel, Shipbuilding, and “powder”(gun powder? munitions?) interests hired 12 high-ranking newspaper execs to determine how to “control generally the policy of the daily press” throughout the entire country.

Answer: They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

…the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly SUPERVISE AND EDIT INFORMATION….

This policy also included the suppression of everything in opposition to the WISHES of the interests served.

Shimrra Shai's avatar

I have never relied on "news" primarily as some sort of godlike source and having lived that I have shows me that everyone on this has blind areas - and I don't say I don't; to the extent I don't it's only because I am constantly revising how I understand things and have been doing so lifelong.

Shimrra Shai's avatar

What do you mean "taking back the levels"? Do you mean simply changing who occupies the governance seats, without changing the very fact there _are_ governance seats, that those seats are performed and enacted according to certain procedures, that those procedures are not historically neutral, and many other important realities? For example, what does it mean even to put "good people" in charge of a government structure whose very constitution was build by slave owners? Who would do Epstein shit to those slaves all the time? You have to remember this is not new. This is not truly a surprise except to privileged people. Lots of Afro-American, Indigenous American and other people are saying that: THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE, and they are the people who have suffered the most and continue to suffer under these systems that everyone is in some way complicit in enacting and re-enacting.

The thing is, we need to be actually taking the system apart for good. We need to be writing and living a new script. Let's only worry about these hollow governance structures to the extent we need to keep their power off us and reduce it as we build newer and more directly in our hands, less hierarchic, more distributed, and more centered on integrity, compassion, reason, and community. Interdependence, not independence nor codependence.

Why _should_ we be clocking 9-5 at a boss when many other cultural work arrangements have existed, for example? Why should land and Nature be something privately owned when it is better in many ways to say it owns us? Etc.

Altered States of America's avatar

appreciate this comment, and you probably already know, but pizzagate wasn't news to those of us who have read the Franklin Coverup, or know about Roy Cohn, or the career of NYPD detective, James Rothstein.... i hope you and Charles are right that the enormity and widespread exposure of this new chapter is enough to overcome the cognitive dissonance that blocks many from active understanding.

Tam Hunt's avatar

I don't disagree with you and obviously I share your fervor for a new story to come out of this travesty of "modern civilization," but it would be helpful to include a summary of what actually is in the Epstein files since the one video you linked it isn't at at clear what it's referring to? Who was torturing babies? How were the videos made? How do they relate to Epstein and his circle(s)? What were Epstein's ties to Mossad and Israel more generally? To the CIA? None of this is at all clear to me at this point and I'm seeing the "Epstein" meme at this point as black hole for almost any idea of wrongdoing to enter and never come out. I haven't yet done any deep dive into the Epstein materials so it would be good to get a handle on what is real and evidence-based.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

It is hard for me to summarize, because so much of it is hints and patterns. Obvious code words. Global elites talking about "grape soda and pizza" in completely inappropriate contexts. Epstein obsessing about whether his "beef jerky" has been kept on ice. But there are also explicit mentions of things like torture videos. And how much they enjoyed the young ladies at a party then saying well actually the ladies were one year olds. the files are the nucleus of a whole constellation of material. For example, recent revelation of the Deutsche Bank whisltleblower who was fired for flagging Epstein and Kushner. https://www.levernews.com/the-compliance-officer-who-flagged-epstein-and-lost-her-job/

exeunt's avatar

It’s troubling that the only reference in your piece is an account from a c-list reporter from newsmax whose feed is full of inflammatory anti immigrant, anti trans and pro Trump content.

UFO research has repeatedly driven people insane because it sits in an almost perfect superposition, most likely a carefully constructed one, of being both impossible to dismiss and impossible to confirm. These files are the same. To ignore the code words and say there’s no there there would be disingenuous. To speak about satanic ritual abuse and cannibalism as if they are already confirmed (as you do here) is credulous. A responsible thinker needs to live in that tension.

To help navigate this I recommend Eve Sedgwick’s essay “Paranoid Reading and Reparative Reading”

Michael Raven's avatar

I believe you missed the point of his entire essay, we are breeding ourselves badly, and we don't even see we are

The Stories of Objects's avatar

Thank you! I read this post and I wholeheartedly agreed with the vast majority of it until it (and many of the comments) started devolving into promoting speculative content without any proof. At this point, I can confidently say I have reviewed the majority of the actual files and, yes, the references to "beef jerky" are just that - the proof is in the emails. But no one is looking for information that debunks the conspiracies they want to believe.

Drucilla's avatar

You need to do some research before blowing off these victims. The evidence is overwhelming. I have been awake for over a decade. I have to tell you your programming from cnn is blaring. Wake up.

Edralis's avatar

Thank you for giving particular examples!

What do you make of these debunkings on Snopes?

- the party of 12 one year olds (literally a party for a one year old, probably with other one year olds attending) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-one-year-olds/

- jerky (literally just beef jerky) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-jerky/

- pizza + grape soda (literally just pizza and soda) https://www.snopes.com/tracker/epstein-files-pizzagate/

The Stories of Objects's avatar

Thank you for links! All of those examples you linked are proven by the files, if you follow the data. People think every single email is Satanic-coded and completely ignore that the emails contain logistical things like planning dinner menus, travel arrangements, improvements to properties, etc.

People are completely ignoring the legitimately evil (but less salacious) information that has been exposed in the files.

Drucilla's avatar

Please do a little research on snopes. These people are paid by the same people who own the system and try to protect it.

Erica Etelson's avatar

The Lever News article doesn't mention any of those salacious allegations, it's about shady financial transactions.

Drucilla's avatar

Go into the files and look for yourself! It has a search bar. Put in the word jerky and try to make sense of "I'm walking the jerky over to Jeffrey".

Kathy Martens's avatar

There are a few independent researchers who have been deeply investigating Epstein for years. They are thorough in citation of sources and in staying as unbiased as one can with such disturbing material. We certainly would do well to not expect general searches to yield much truth, if the corruption does, as it seems, run as deep and wide as Charles points to. I have found this researcher to be very articulate, level-headed, and thorough: Whitney Webb https://unlimitedhangout.com/author/whitney-webb/ She has written two books on the subject and many, many articles.

Mirirai's avatar

Thank yew for this re-source of Whitney Webb

Anne McKinney's avatar

👏🏻 self-funded, she's been on it & so much more. Also Catherine Austin Fitts for more perspective on background for current events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6i6z1T0CEo

Elle's avatar

The details in the torture is available to you- a quick search will lead you there. Charles has brilliantly tied the past trauma in the world to the present. Personally, I do not want to see babies being torn apart by monsters. Why break your heart?

Lynden Harris's avatar

I'd like to see the sources. I've checked Snopes, Gemini, Chat, and Claude, and cannot find any verified examples or references.

Atlandea's avatar

believing snopes and AI will give you answers is like believing in the tooth fairy

The Stories of Objects's avatar

Snopes is one of the first and most well-regarded misinformation prevention sites. Their writing includes citations and links back to source material. They are independent and actually ended their fact-checking relationship with Facebook due to concerns over their processes, even though it meant they lost funding.

Drucilla's avatar

Keep believing that and you'll see just what they want you to see.

The Stories of Objects's avatar

So if we can't rely on the ACTUAL source materials, then where are you getting your "truth"? 🙄

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

Whitney Webb is a good place to start. I don't actually agree with her take on everything, but I do agree with a lot of it. https://unlimitedhangout.com/author/whitney-webb/

Sara Patton's avatar

Here is some research guidance I just picked up from Mare Hieronimus on Facebook: “For years this information has been out there - horrifying as it is. Pizza Gate, Out of Shadows, the work of Ben Swann…. It’s time for everyone to deep dive and throw away their hatred of the CIA term conspiracy theorist to begin to discern more clearly what has actually been occurring.

When we look at the popular culture, also completely controlled, and we witness what is amplified, glorified, who is put upon pedestals, it becomes all too clear.

Beyond the horror, there is something so terribly important and relieving about the truth coming to light. In this way, this is a most sacred time - and what we do with it personally is of such importance. Do we continue to turn towards the sickness, or do we move to purge it from its roots. 🙏🏼

Michael Raven's avatar

I love the last line in your post , just wondering why the period and not a question mark?

Sara Patton's avatar

I cut and pasted it from Mare Hieronimus’s Facebook post. Agree, it should end with a question mark. And I should’ve added a close quote.

Michael Raven's avatar

Thanks for clearing that up , I think focusing on the root of our dilemma is critical. In fact , I don't think we are capable to comprehend these realities. We haven't developed our inner sense organs enough. We need our higher sense organs to grasp the situation and remove it from its existence.

One needs more then there 5 senses ,

We all need to evolve into higher realms of consciousness.

Christine's avatar

The whole point is that all of this has been "hidden" for a long time. That's exactly why you will not find it where you're looking - the manipulated mainstream media narrative excludes all of this (or tries very hard to). There are TONS of sources out there, but you HAVE to be willing to look deeper and not look at "official" sources who all go "nothing to see here, let's move on".

Other than listening to people on YouTube videos, watching documentaries etc. what really helps me to discern truth from lies is on the occasions where I'm actually able to verify what's happening in my (alternative) news sources vs real life. E.g. recently I read a long post on Off-Guardian about a certain court case, and realised I personally knew one of the people involved. When the Israel / Palestine stuff happened, I texted some of my Israeli acquaintances to find out what was happening, I spoke to someone who had moved out of Ukraine when everything there was "taking off". I've seen many interviews with people who had undergone ritual abuse (and lived to tell the tale) and then in real life I meet someone who tells me an ex of his had gone through that etc.

People have given good suggestions - happy digging! This whole process *requires* responsibility on your part to do the digging and work out the truth for yourself, rather than just believe what you're told.

Dr. Jenny Martin's avatar

It's all publicly available from the Department of Justice: https://www.justice.gov/epstein

Edralis's avatar

Which document, specifically?

Andi Vendetta West's avatar

Search for jmail, go there and use it's gmail style search box to find all the source documents with all the words you are curious to search. You don't need links. You need to do it yourself. It's super simple.

The Stories of Objects's avatar

There are no credible sources that show any information about torturing of babies or others. At least not in the files that we currently all have access to.

If you believe there are, then you are getting your information from biased sources. There are plenty of horrible things in the files that are enough to break the entire global world order. Why can't we focus on that, instead of trying to spin salacious stores without any actual proof.

Lynden Harris's avatar

Yes, I feel the same. I can't find any credible references or evidence about much of this. The linked IG isn't very helpful. Can you please cite sources and references for those of us trying to learn and understand with a level of clarity.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

Read the other responses and responses to the responses in Tam's thread here. The problem is that "credible" is constructed in order to preserve dominant narratives. So you have to venture a bit outside the kind of credibility that the system defines.

The Stories of Objects's avatar

That's because there are none. I hate that these references to satanic rituals and coded words have taken over the predominant narrative when there is (so far) absolutely NO evidence of them. All we have are bloggers and conjecture. They want there to be rituals. They want there to be stealing adrenochrome from babies. As if the actual reality of the world revealed by the files wasn't bad enough.

Lars Nicolaysen's avatar

X??? You call X a trustworthy source??? Are you joking?

Sara Patton's avatar

In my experience, X is the best place to find the truth. Of course, not everything on X is the truth. But you will NOT find the truth on legacy media. Not yet. So you must start cruising X, and use your discernment to determine what is real. And forget AI and Snopes. That is just propaganda regurgitation. Many of us have been looking into this for years now. Time to start doing some research on your own. And do be careful not to expose yourself to the photos and audio that you will never be able to get out of your brain. I am treading very lightly.

The Stories of Objects's avatar

This is why we are doomed. There is no proof in the source materials but most people would rather believe random X accounts and TikTok. 🤦

ann lewis's avatar

You'll find more there than the mainstream media which lies and misleads nonstop.

Lars Nicolaysen's avatar

The media illiteracy of people nowadays is astounding

Ryan Peters's avatar

Lars if X is such garbage, why do world leaders including ECB head post directly there ? Twitter has always been the place. Yes we swim in a sea of mis information but that's everywhere. "Media literacy" isn't trusting a single platform, but how to evaluate pieces of news and information. Anyway have a good one...

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

I just read through a bunch of the comments in response to you Tam. I encourage other readers to look at some of the sources people are suggesting here in order to get a better view of the evidence and scope.

The Stories of Objects's avatar

I generally wholeheartedly agree with your post, but the references to things like beef jerky and pizza are completely false flags. We have no proof of any sort of child-eating, satanic rituals - and I have to say I have gone through most of the source material. Sometimes, things are exactly what they are - all references to beef jerky are actually about beef jerky. It is all there in the files.

The things we do have evidence of (like this world-breaking global cabal of rich elites manipulating economies, elections, science, etc.) are bad enough. That is where the focus should be.

Erica Etelson's avatar

I came to the same conclusion. Charles, being the incredibly deep thinker that you are, I think it would be really fruitful to reflect on the lure of the salacious. Does it stem from fear that "ordinary" evil isn't sufficient to launch out of our stupor and bring this regime and this story to an end?

Uddhava's avatar

Users on r/Epstein are demonstrating amazing determination in sorting through, organizing, and presenting info from the 3M+ files dumped so far. It's an incredible resource. Check it out. It would be very difficult to be unswayed by the evidence out there.

Silicon Shaman's avatar

Just took a quick look and it looks like mostly Reddit slop. I looked at the sidebar expecting maybe a MegaThread with all the relevant links indexed or categorized or something. I didn't find useful information, but I *did* find rules, many of which were violated within the first few posts (4: No political partisanship, 5: No low-effort posts).

The Stories of Objects's avatar

It is mostly Reddit slop. I have been active in that sub for several years and it suffers tremendously from a lack of moderation, amplification of speculative content, etc. So far, the best source seems to be the files themselves.

Uddhava's avatar

It is worth more than a quick look. Sift beneath the slop.

Phillipa Holden's avatar

this is a good place to start if you wish to understand the general picture: https://www.fallcabal.com/ and there are plenty of other channels sharing the grime of what is being revealed, e.g. https://rumble.com/c/THEPEOPLESVOICE/videos?e9s=src_v1_cmd

Nicole Elaine's avatar

Yes, same thoughts going around in my head. I also distrust what our government tells us, and they are telling us to trust the providence of these materials....

Laura b's avatar

And yet you Charles supported these people. You told us Trump was an ok guy. 🙄

NunYa's avatar

Oh boy, you really haven't looked into this, huh? You're in for a whirlwind. And this is only half of the documents, apparently. Imagine what's in the other half

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

I embrace the hatred that comes up in me in response to these horrendous actions. I want them to suffer for their sins, and then i remember that this is exactly what they are doing; externalizing their own pain and suffering on others.

In our humanness we are each victims and perpetrators, we are all light and dark, right and wrong, good and bad. When i sit with my anger, righteousness, arrogance of them, i see that i am merely adding fuel to the fire of separation. When i remember they are acting out their own pain, my anger softens and compassion returns. 98% of men who beat were beaten, it is up to us, each of us, to shift this pattern if we truly desire healing. When i feel the anger and hatred that arises from within me, i see it is the same hatred i have held towards myself, an inter-generational hatred i learned as a child.

And i find that the only sanity, the only peace, the only true healing is compassion; for them, for us, for you and me. And in that compassion, peace doesn't 'return', rather, i return to the peace that has never left. And from this place of loving compassion, i know which inspired action to take. And it becomes loving action. I know for myself, this is the only true path, this is the only solution, just as it has always been.

Isabel L's avatar

Yes, exactly, hate against perpetrators ultimately is hatred toward ourselves, it solves nothing. Bernhard Guenther also has a brilliant new essay on that subject. The problem is that most are still afraid of their own shadows.

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

Hi Isabel, thanks for your reply. Sometimes i get a gut feeling that the more of us who work on our shadows, the easier it is for others. What do you think/feel?

Saskia Eva's avatar

Hi Joe, You didn't ask me but i think your gut feeling is spot on. Rupert Sheldrake also agrees, according to his work on Morphogenetic Fields.

Every torch carried down into the "dungeons of despair" casts a light on what's been hiding there for ages, making it more visible for all who dare to follow. As you wrote in your comment above, we've all been there, done that, we've all been victims as well as perpetrators. Our individual shadows may show themselves in different forms, but what lies underneath is as universally human as the spark of eternal Light that ignited our torches in the first place.

(PS: I'm not sure where this came from, but it wanted out so here it is! Let's love life and all its wonders!)

Isabel L's avatar

100% that. There is also a saying that really stuck to me, I heard Maya Angelou say it, from Terence: "Nothing human can be alien to me!". It's the kind of saying you have to really allow to sit on your tongue and absorb it. When I head Maya say it (on a TV program), I imagined facing some child molester in prison (imagined a total stranger), and repeated that phrase to myself. You get an interesting feeling. Luckily (depending on how you look at it), the perpetrator in my little version of the universe was my own father. But I also knew he was extremely traumatized as a kid in WWII, also likely a victim of sexual abuse at some point, and I inherited a lot from him. So, during my own shadow work had to come to terms with all that. Only hurt people hurt people. The act of perpetrating is the ultimate act of a deep feeling of separation.

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

Nothing human can be alien to me; what a compelling statement. Reading how you describe your childhood, it sounds like your shadow work has been very healing ❤️🙏🏽

Isabel L's avatar

Absolutely. It was a necessary experience, you don't really, truly understand anything unless and until you experience it, positive and negative.

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

Dear Saskia, love the torch light into the dungeon image. Thank you for sharing. You say you don’t know where the words or inspiration came from, i venture to guess possibly compassionate loving action??? ❤️🤙🏽

Isabel L's avatar

Yes, I saw ripples in my own little version of the Universe every time my brother came to visit and told me (not often), even though I was so far away and cut off contact to my parents at different stages. My departure did shake them a whole lot more than I ever realized. Then it varies a whole lot by individual on what they are capable or are ready of doing, but there were some interesting surprises here and there.

Then of course there were other people who crossed my path who came at different stages, some important mentors, then later me paying it forward by being a mentor, and this is how the ripple effect continues and spreads. I am an animal person, so I became really used to always having a mirror, or rather, a bunch of mirrors, in my house and pasture (horses are perfect mirrors). They really make you see how your energy and action ripple and reflect if one cares to see it 😁 They don't care about 'good' or 'bad', they just reflect. I have seen plenty of people run from their reflection during my time in dog training and horse seminars....

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

When i see people run from their shadow reflection, i still initially judge them, and then remember that they are also a mirror for me. Its a hall of mirrors!!! 🤣😍🤙🏽

ann lewis's avatar

You may have compassion, I do not. I don't wish them tortured as they have tortured, but I wish them removed from this planet by any means necessary. And I am not so sure that they are actually human.

Joe Noonan Deeper Into Nature's avatar

Hi Ann, I too have wished them away, far away, ideally all to the same hell. But what if they already have, and this is the hell they've been sent to? Human or not, clearly they are suffering and reflect the same hatred, greed, arrogance that is also in me. All the prayers and songs i grew up with, banishment was the solution. But i no longer believe that.

Victor Diogo's avatar

Why do we need to keep talking about hell and insisting in a punitive God who demands everyone to obey the rules to be rewarded and punished if they dont?

God is unconditional Love, there is no hell nor hierarchy when God itself never demands creatures to obey the rules.

Instead of thinking in these moralistic terms, we should see evil as an energetic separation from God, they rejected Its unconditional Love and are trying to replace It, because all their lives they felt, thought and were taught that Love is weakness.

We have to think of spirituality not as abstract normative fear based fantasies, but as a living authentic and mystical experience in our personal relationship with God and how we are able to participate in Its own magical creation by flowing with It.

ann lewis's avatar

Well, then I guess you're a better person than I am. I respect your perspective but don't share it.

Saskia Eva's avatar

Most of the time i am alternating between your and Joes perspective. What always wins in the end, though, is the certainty that love is a powerful "weapon" which the dark side cannot wield. That certainty is like the only clear beacon i can distinguish - most of the time. Sort of leaves me no choice but to keep trying to reach it.

But including some love in this reply to you is very, very easy! :-)

Michael Raven's avatar

It's all Kabbahla to me , taking your inner most sensations and fully feeling them and letting them go , allows us to elevate ourselves and others

Michael Raven's avatar

It's so true, how simple it is to elevate our own Consciousness. To be able to see from "on high" , to envision new pathways It's as natural as breathing, ....yet the majority of us aren't utilizing the very inner essence of ourselves to fully see and observe.

We basically lack the capacity to see beyond our own personal view. It will take an elite set of Humans coming together collectively who know these higher sensibilities in such a way they can manifest it physically, something that can immediately be felt within one's body

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Now is our most vulnerable moment, as the empire and emperors stand naked and perverted for all to see.

How will be act? I hope our love exceeds our love of hate.

Isabel L's avatar

Excellent piece. Bernhard Guenther also just wrote a good piece on the subject of the lack of our shadow work and that it must happen for the Beautiful World to become possible. For me, this feels quite personal, because I come from a family background just as described. At age 20, I spoke out, and it had consequences, some of which were equally traumatic and it was the real reason why I had to emigrate in order to live an authentic life. I also never told anyone that during a group therapy session in 1992, I met someone who grew up in a satanic cult. What I remember most is her screams. I remembered them fully again as I read your words on the videos. They shook me to the core. She also said her brother couldn't handle the abuse and became schizophrenic. I was still unhealed at the time also, so my brain simply shut out and forgot the actual details of her abuse, as I am sure all the others in that small group did the same. It is simply too unbearable for a psyche to handle this, it must protect itself. I hope it is enough for many to just accept intellectually the reality of this abuse, just don't deny it, it does exist. That's all we really need, we don't need punishment, we just need to be *heard and believed*, and then we need the *change*, so that this never ever happens again to someone else.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

You are brave, in ways visible and invisible. Thank you. Your speaking out in the face of risk, and your willingness to heal, has a bigger impact on the world than most of us might realize.

Isabel L's avatar

I feel like this is the time, the year that one must speak. The whole world is being rattled awake in a mostly virtual reality kind of way.

Isabel L's avatar

One issue also is that probably most of us are aware that our disclosures themselves cause additional trauma. It stirs the pot big time, that is why I rarely have talked about my own abuse, it sort of puts yet another layer of responsibility on you. But, in a spiritual sense, we chose it. It is quite a learning experience.

Nicole Elaine's avatar

Charles, your writing sometimes feels like a supportive hand holding mine, leading me to I peer into dark corners i mostly chose not to look at.

Also- Cary. Beautiful piece!! Thanks for sharing it

Flynn Washington's avatar

The most important thing I have read for years, maybe forever....and I am 85.

Earth's avatar

"The trap is to confuse the symptom and cause; in this case to believe the evil individuals are the cause of humanity's present degradation and suffering."

YES! 'It's not ME...I don't rape and torture babies...it's him over THERE.'

The true CAUSE of evil in yogic philosophy is ignorance: ignorance of our true nature, which is both divine/'good' and depraved/'evil'. I would say DENIAL is a branch of ignorance. Denial of the evil that lurks within each of us. And when its internal origin (and need for 'expression') goes unacknowledged, it projects itself OUTWARD.

Shadow work, I say. That is what's next for this entire planet.

Shadow work. It's gonna get messy y'all. Hold the line. Repent. Pray. Looking forward to the next writing, Charles. God bless you. 🙏🏽💚

Don Salmon's avatar

Thank you for pointing toward the real place to take responsibility.

Linda Brooke Stabler, Ph.D.'s avatar

Reality broke for me quite some time ago. A million and one things. I'm quite certain I'm totally sane. I don't want to "punish" anyone. I don't know if what you've seen of the Epstein files is true. I know there's all kinds of evil shit in the world, I've seen it. How to stop it is the question. All I can do is try. I may have help, it sure seems like it.

Erica Shugart's avatar

"The old story, the Story of Separation, narrates human progress as an ascent toward greater and greater control—over nature, the body, society, the genes, the brain, biology, matter. Control is the solution to every problem. Find the culprit. Find the pathogen."

You might as well say at the end, "find the Epstein." It's over there! As long as the culprits are over there, so will the "indigenous practices" and the unity stuff you talk about. The problem is that we talk about these things as if they are over there.

As a young woman I was preyed upon by my male athletic coach. I was a top US athlete. This coach wasn't an "Epstein." This was a young man that everyone, including the parents, thought was great and who was "great with the kids." That anyone should be at all whip-lashed by "Epstein" is an admission of something.

I'm tired of the hyperventilating. This mess is too entrenched to consider "alternatives." We bring the same entrenched mess to the alternatives until the alternatives look like a new iteration of the old. I'm wary of anyone who wants to solve it.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

"Find the Epstein!" Yes, that is exactly the point I was making. Same pattern of response.

The alternatives that appear most quickly are indeed reiterations of at least some aspect of the old story. That is why it is so important to stay in the space between stories for a while longer.

Tracy Rae's avatar

Erica, I am so sorry that happened to you.

Nan C's avatar

Thank you for this article Charles. I agree that we must all face our own inner monsters in order for this to end. I get frustrated when all people want to do is say "hang the culprits" without recognizing that we all have our own work to do in order for this to end. You explained so well the way I have been thinking.

ann lewis's avatar

Yes, but what DO we do with the culprits? Give them hugs and some cookies and they'll realize the error of their ways? Imo, they do need hanging. And I am far from perfect, as we all are far from perfect, but I am NOT raping and torturing babies. There is a difference between entities who engage in that sort of evil and those of us who do not and never would or could.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

No, not hugs and cookies. The most important thing is to prevent them from continuing to do it. They must be removed from power and exposed fully. Transparrency is more important than punishment. The idea of punishment is a kind of trap. It satisfies something within us. When the perpetrator is punished, we think, "Great. That's finished. Justice is done." And then we move on, without looking deeper at how this could have happened in the first place. Therefore, we must make our top priority not punishment, but making this stop.

ann lewis's avatar

Hanging makes it stop. I am not viewing it as punishment per se, but as a way to make (at least for the entity hanged) it stop. I believe it is owed to the victims.

Abby Wynne's avatar

Entities don’t die by hanging. Just saying.

ann lewis's avatar

Well, if they are human entities they do. And if they are something else, then at least this particular iteration is removed.

Abby Wynne's avatar

Removed to infect someone else. That’s what we are experiencing right now. People with no boundaries or protection are wide open. This is a spiritual war.

greer (tree woman)'s avatar

Isabel L wrote above:

<< There is ... a saying that really stuck to me, I heard Maya Angelou say it, from Terence: "Nothing human can be alien to me!" >>

... this lies at the base of all of this... we are each every human and what any human can do we could do in the 'right' circumstances. Eliminating the perpetrators of the current horror that brings it up in our faces, just makes us feel better... Until we accept completely "Nothing human can be alien to me!" nothing will change...

(search for 'Maya' on this page and you will find Isabel L's full comment and the discussion thread)

Andi Vendetta West's avatar

Making them stop without real consequence guarantees that the next willing group of predators won't hesitate to take up the reigns.

I hate to say it, but sometimes you must destroy your enemies so unequivocally that the only place they exist in the future is in the caveats told in children's nursery rhymes and now is one such moment.

We don't all have to become monsters to make this happen, but some of us do and there are sufficient volunteers to end this era once and for all.

All the rest have do is not interfere with what must be done.

Saskia Eva's avatar

Now i find myself replying to you again. I hope you don't feel hunted! My "dream" of what to do with the culprits is to completely strip them of their wealth and power and to return those assets to the people they were stolen from. Money is, in my view, nothing but stored energy waiting to be allocated. Allocating the culprits' money into healing the damage they have caused while collecting all that wealth might bring the beginning of a new balance in the world. In my dream, it does!

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

They also need to be subjected to total transparency.

ann lewis's avatar

But how do you return something like a murdered child's life? Or a tortured/raped child's innocence? These children have been destroyed and cannot be made whole. Money is not going to repair or 'heal the damage' that has been done to them. Failure to permanently remove these predators from society allows them to continue doing what they do. I am not concerned with compassion toward them, but rather compassion toward their victims, past and future.

Saskia Eva's avatar

You are right, of course, what is done can't be undone. There is too much damage done that can never be healed. But maybe, just maybe, if we could build a world where children (and the rest of us) are safe, the souls of those who were not might find rest.

Alanna Hartzok's avatar

Charles - This is surely your best ever writing! Thank you so much! Your vision is blessedly clear.

g. bastard's avatar

Exquisite as always, Charles, but I simply cannot imagine any coherence from a populace who so readily accepted the poison needles and a livestreamed genocide. And 'they' have two devastating cards to play; to quote Gerald Celente "when all else fails, they take you to war" (cue Iran) and the faked alien invasion (cue Obama). Prepare accordingly.

Charles Eisenstein's avatar

They will undoubtedly try a war. The alien invasion idea isn't going to work though.

As for the needles, I think that was a big awakening for a lot of people. More people believed what they were told in 2020 than in 2022. Not everyone woke up, but a lot did. And even those who still profess to believe that the "vaccines saved millions of lives" thanks to "Science" don't believe it as fervently. They said they believed the CDC, but did they, by the time the eighth booster rolled around?

Leo's avatar

"What if they held a war...and nobody came."

Jenna Ludwig's avatar

I watched the movie Nuremberg a few nights ago. The film clearly drives home the reality of power and depravity. Thank you for this post, Chales. Until we understand how certain societal systems fuel the dark side of human behavior, we will keep repeating these kinds of horrific patterns.

Loi Eberle's avatar

Thanks, dear Charles, for your courage to tell the truth! Wishing it was beyond belief, I fear it is not. You are right, we can't deny it, we must own our collective role in it, and find a way to heal our wounds by giving them attention. After that, we need to find a way to generate love for all involved, while not falling prey to the slippery slope of hatred and denial. Thank you for what you've written over the years! It provided me with a lot of insight, hope, and courage!❤️

Paisley's avatar

Many have lived through frazzledrip and the like for years, decades. The revelations come to us each in their own time. Patience as each reaches an awakened state. And yet the revolution did not occur—those of use living amidst the “normal,” have prophecized this moment of renewal once a critical mass was secured. And yet I worry that people will continue to diverge in this immense opportunity for creative renewal and reform based on entrenched and oppositional ideologies, seeded themselves by this dark shit.