Thank you Charles. Regarding the last point, i'd just like to say that in my view this conflict is deliberately misrepresented by the billionaire elite (both israeli and arab) and their narrative managers in a manipulative distorted manner as if it is a conflict between ordinary jews and ordinary muslims, between ordinary israelis and ordinary palestinians, when in reality it is a war waged by the billionaire ruling class (both jewish and arab) on the have-nots (both jewish and arab
Here are a few key facts that clearly illustrate this
1) The Zionist ruling class has spent over a century carrying out a brutal campaign of dispossession, dehumanization, expulsion, torture, abuse, rape, and mass murder against local palestinians—not merely for territorial conquest, but to maintain control over ordinary Israeli Jews. It might not be immediately clear for those not familiar with the dynamics involved but the systematic violence and dispossesion against palestinians actually indirectly serves a dual purpose for the israeli ruling class: 1) to severely economically exploit the Israeli public and enrich themselves. and 2) to prevent our rising up against the billionaire elite in power. How does their ruthless violence against the indigenous palestinians achieves these goals for the israeli elite? Through the "Boogeyman Enemy" principle—a well-documented tactic of elite control (explained in depth here (https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/oppressors-need-bogeyman-enemies).
The relentless cruelty, dispossesion, dehumanization, mass-murder, terrorism and abuse by the zionist state is deliberately designed to provoke Palestinian anger, resistance and backlash, which the zionist regime then frames as an unprovoked antisemite attack against jews for being jews. By deliberately fostering and manufacturing this tribalist hostility and fear, the zionist billionaires (and their representitives in the israeli govt) position themselves as the "indispensable protectors" of Israeli Jews, all while enforcing severe economic exploitation of israelis and suppressing dissent.
The manipulative narrative that the zionist elite and their narrative managers sell us is this: "You face a savage, irrational enemy—one that hates you simply for being Jewish (never mind the decades of occupation and brutal murderous violence we've inflicted on them). Only we, the patriotic billionaires and our political puppets, can shield you from this danger. So you need to rally around the flag and unite behind your great patriotic leader, who really really loves you and really really wants to protect you from that evil enemy over there who is coming to get you. And don't ever dare question our authority over you or think about removing from power over you—lest the ‘antisemitic barbarians’ destroy you."
In short: The oppression of Palestinians is a tool to control Israelis. The real enemy of ordinary israelis isn’t palestinians resisting their dispossesion, massacre and decades of brutal cruel violence and dehumanization—it’s the oligarchs who profit from perpetual tribalist division, fear, hate and war.
2) From its inception, Zionist leadership has pursued an agenda fundamentally hostile to Jewish working-class interests. Even during the Holocaust, their priorities were chillingly clear: **zionist (elite-ruled) state over jewish lives.** When opportunities arose to rescue Jews from Nazi genocide, Zionist leaders actively opposed them, because such efforts did not serve their political goal of establishing a state of their own (under their control). See evidence below. Ziionist ultra-wealthy leaders needed dead Jews to use as bargaining chips to elicit world sympathy and guilt-trip humanity into not objecting when they implemented their planned ethnic-cleansing of the indigenous people to create their state.
For the manipulative Zionist billionaire ruling class, Jewish lives were NEVER the priority. The priority was always their control and position at the top of the pyramid in their OWN carved-out fiefdom - the israeli state
3) For decades, Israeli rulers have deliberately funded and bolstered Hamas—a policy that continues to this day!! Why? To ensure the "boogeyman enemy" remains a potent threat, justifying perpetual militarization, repression, and public fear. This is not conspiracy; it is well-documented strategy.
Mainstream sources confirm that Israeli leadership—from Netanyahu’s multiple governments to military officials—has repeatedly propped up Hamas to both undermine Palestinian unity, and to manufacture a frightening adversary with which to scare israelis into compliance and loyalty to them (the zionist oligarchs and their political puppets). They do this in order to sustain the manipulative narrative of an existential threat from an irrationally antisemite enemy , ensuring the compliance of ordinary israelis and justifying their endless cycles of brutal mass-murdering attacks on the indigenous people (the cycles that sustain the perpetual tribalist division, fear, hate and war, upon which the ruling class thrive and upon which they depend for their control over us).
4) Hamas, like its counterparts in the Israeli ruling class, also serves the interests of billionaires—not the people it claims to represent, as exposed here https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/hamas-leaders-are-billionaires-who?r=1iggn, its political leaders (who live outside of palestine) amass obscene wealth while ordinary palestinians suffer and are slaughtered en masse by heavily-propagandized & hypnotized zionist tribalists.
Hamas got votes NOT because Palestinians desired an Islamic theocracy, but because it positioned itself as the lesser of two evils—an alternative to the Palestinian Authority (PA), a corrupt proxy regime bankrolled by Israeli and Western oligarchs to crush Palestinian resistance. The PA exists to enforce the orders of the zionist billionaire ruling class, making Hamas—despite its authoritarianism—appear to ordinary palestinians as the only force willing to confront the murderous evil of Zionist colonization, abuse, torture and dispossesion
This is the same cynical playbook used by right-wing fascists everywhere: Zionist neo-Nazis in Israel (bankrolled by jewish billionaires) win votes by fearmongering about "evil enemies" and promising that "we will protect you from those evil people who for some strange unknown reason are hostile towards the zionist regime (must be antisemitism, no other explanation)", in the exact same way as Hamas gains support by posing as Gaza’s "defenders." The same right-wing billionaires' playbook everywhere. The goal is always the same—to manipulate the 99% (the non-ruling class) into viewing our billionaire oppressors and jailors as our "protectors from that evil enemy over there who is coming to get you".
Bravo!! It’s refreshing to see at least one clear-thinking Jewish voice that hasn’t been entirely consumed by the elite’s relentless indoctrination—their toxic brew of nationalism, religious tribalism, and divide-and-rule tactics.
In a time when so many have been swayed by these manipulative divisive narratives, your refusal to conform to the tribalism and your stand for truth and human dignity, exposing the exact divide-and-rule tricks that the oligarchs play on us, is both rare and commendable. Keep speaking truth.
Thank you for sharing this. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss it.
Before addressing the authenticity of the so-called "interview" you referenced, I’d like first to put it in a larger context. This document is just one of many fabricated narratives that circulate within ideological echo chambers—whether among religious tribalists, Zionists, neo-Nazis, Hindu supremacists, Christian nationalists or Muslim fundamentalists. Each of these groups is fed a steady diet of manufactured "evidence" designed to stoke fear and hatred of "the other."
This is not accidental. The billionaire ruling class—comprised of elites from all religious and national backgrounds—relies on **divide-and-rule** as their most effective weapon. By redirecting the justified anger of the 99% (ordinary non-elite people) toward religious or ethnic scapegoats, they ensure we never unite against the real architects of human misery and the control of the few over the many.
This brilliant essay https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/i-found-it-the-misplaced-owners-manual illustrates this manipulation with biting sarcasm, framing it as a "manual" for elites on how to control populations by fostering division. Similarly, the *Bogeyman Enemy* tactic—explained in depth here https://www.pdrboston.org/oppressors-need-bogeyman-enemies —reveals how fear of a "monstrous other" is used by the elite to keep the 99% divided, hateful and fighting each other. Please do read these two profoundly important essays. IMHO they are essential reading for every human on the planet who wishes to understand exactly how we are being played.
I myself was labeled "Jewish" at birth—a designation I had no say in. Yet, because of fabricated documents like the one you shared, some well-intentioned but misled individuals now see me (and others like me) as part of some sinister plan to destroy you. This is **precisely** how the ruling class operates:
- To Israelis, they say: "Palestinians are your existential threat! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Palestinians, they say: "Jews want to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Christians, they say: "Jews and Muslims are your enemies and want to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Hindus, they say: "Muslims are coming to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
The goal is always the same: Keep ordinary people fighting each other so we never question the oligarchs pulling the strings.
My Stance Against Sectarianism -
As I’ve written here https://open.substack.com/pub/headandheart1/p/my-perspective-on-the-conflict-in, I reject **all** forms of religious supremacy and tribalist thinking—whether Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or Hindu. The belief that one group is inherently superior (or uniquely threatened) is not just morally bankrupt, it’s the very mechanism that perpetuates division, fear, violence and elite control over us.
As I wrote in the linked post that i just shared:
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT FOR THE WHOLE, SECURITY ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY.
Why i said that This "Interview" is a Fabrication-
1. No record of it exists anywhere. There’s no audio, video, or transcript in any official archive (Senate records, Library of Congress, or Senator Javits’ office). The sole "source" is a typed document from a well-known neo-Nazi propagandist.
In the document it says that it is being taped. Have you ever heard this tape? No one has. It doesn't exist!!
2. Conveniently published years after Rosenthal’s death. The alleged "interviewee" couldn’t refute or corroborate it. How convenient..
3. Rosenthal was a low-level staffer in an administrative function in a senator office, not some powerful shadowy mastermind as he's presented in the fabricated document. He had ZERO influence on any policy making of even one senator, let alone an entire country or the world.
4. His former colleagues (including Senator Javits) unanimously claimed he never held such views as attributed to him in the so-called "interview", calling the document a total fabrication. And that in fact he was strongly opposed to the ideas that are attributed to him in this made-up "interview".
They also commented that besides the actual forged content, also the style of speaking and behaving that is attributed to Rosenthal in the document is completely opposite to Rosenthal's common behavior which they have known for years.
Historian Dr. Michael Barkun has extensively studied this forged Rosenthal document from many angles and has concluded that it is a clear hoax—I highly recommend reading his research on this for deeper analysis. I obviously cannot go into book-size details in the limited space for a comment here
Final Thought - The real enemy isn’t "Muslims," "Jews" "Christians," or "Hindus." It’s the tiny elite that profits from our division. The ruling ckass (which is comprised of all religions) is not divided as we are and in fact work TOGETHER to divide us (as can be seen very clearly in the links i shared above). If we keep falling for their tricks, we’ll remain trapped in endless cycles of fear, hatred, violence and their domination over us—while they laugh all the way to the bank.
Besides the links to the very important essays that i shared above (which i do highly recommemd reading), I also share extensively on this on my profile page, which you're very welcome to view.
I was raised in a Zionist Jewish family and felt a lot of affinity towards Israel growing up. In fact in June of 1967 I attended a teenage Zionist summer camp in the Catskills (Camp Tel Yehuda). If you recall that was the same month as the Six Day War. From the moment I arrived, there was an overwhelming feeling of relief and celebration that our wonderful little nation was victorious, the David who conquered the evil Goliath Arabs who surrounded them. How naive I was!
Six decades later here’s how I see it. I don’t hate anyone, even the murderous psychopaths who are engaged in genocide, deceit, terror and manipulation. Having been on a spiritual journey for many years, the only way I can maintain sanity and well being is to stay connected to my heart - there is no place for hatred there. But what is a total turn off to me is criminal behavior which I recognize is all over the place. And criminals come in every religion, race, creed, gender and nationality. And when I see it, I’m gaining the courage to call it out.
I don’t know if the Rosenthal interview is real or not. Same goes for the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and lots of other stuff I’ve seen or heard. But I do believe that the USS Liberty was attacked and many atrocities have been done by Israel and their neighbors have as well. Some of my close friends are Israelis. And I’ve also had several Palestinian ones. But I’m aware there are low life’s who do awful things - I pray that they are exposed and people start to wake up. This is my position and I’ll stand by it.
Ok. I admit I need some help, some increased empathy or something, when a friend who grew up in Israel calmly, rationally explains to me why they must kill as many Palestinians as necessary to destroy armed resistance to their Occupation of Gaza for the security of Israel.
Have you tried putting yourself in their shoes? Imagine the propaganda they've been exposed to and then imagine that your whole life from the moment you're born and almost everyone around you exposed their whole lives too. Then try starting with the sentence, "I'm so sorry...." and insert something you feel sorry that they believe and why they believe it.
I practice unconditional compassion (often times very hard) and you have to realise that compassion doesn't require judgement or agreeing with what someone believes. Just an understanding that we're all human, all prone to the same mistakes and propaganda (propaganda exists because it works).
Propaganda works because humans are much more manipulable than other animals who operate more on instinct—who would react violently (fight or flight) seeing their neighbors slaughtered! Yes, today we live in a “Media massage” and it’s so staggeringly effective the world watches dumbly as thousands of innocents are murdered and murmurs, “Too bad, I guess it’s necessary…”
The best thing I have seen on Israel/Palestine is a talk by Rich Forer, a Jewish American man, who grew up supporting Israel, as he was expected to do, until he realized he wanted to study the true history of Israel. When he did, he had an awakening. It's a beautiful talk showing how people believe in extraordinary things -- until they don't. I have always wanted RFK Jr. to watch this talk. love, shanti in auroville, india
Thank you for giving this information on Rich Forer's talk. It's such a brilliant discussion of his search for truth, and ability to accept that truth. It's very moving.
To change anything in the world, we have to first change our relationship with it in us, and have curiosity about another person's (the enemy, the evil one) conditioning that lead to their position. And we must remember that there is a lot of deep subconscious stuff in everyone's conditioning!
Thank you Charles for continually presenting another way of looking at the world, beyond the polarization that keeps us divided, at least in our minds. As many times as I can remember to, the simplest, most centering and I believe the most radical, the most helpful, the most transformational response to all the trauma is love and compassion ❤️ 🙏🏽🌎
Thanks so much for your ongoing works, Charles. I will weigh in and say I do wish you wouldn't depart from publishing your articles Substack. Why not both here and CE.com? Substack is a good, if imperfect, platform and community. Not sure why you wouldn't want to keep the greater distribution of wisdom.
Maybe Benjamin Netanyahu and his government colleagues are leading the people in a bad direction? Isn't there a difference between the state and the people of a country? If covid has taught us nothing else surely that is now clear, at least to some of us?
So in this case why is RFK Jr supporting the Israeli state and playing down (to put it at its kindest) the human cost of that state's actions?
Absolutely. He has not displayed the qualities Charles lists since he signed on with an oligarch who is destroying our country. Flipped the election likely as well. The man Charles describes is not the same one I know him to be.
Yes I think it’s a great idea to use Substack like social media and post longer articles on your website.
I think we’re all going to need to direct people who are interested in our work to our own sites. Social media is curated, algorithmic manipulation infects the platforms in ways that over time becomes less useful for many people.
If we want to freely speak or (in my case) make ‘niche’ music then we need to attract genuine curiosity rather than casual scrolling.
Those curious from snippets or newsletters will seek out more detailed work, that’s the kind of attention that has far more meaning than numbers of likes. Also people will share articles and essays when they like them.
In general social media is for me a form of ‘advertising’ to direct people’s attention towards other things elsewhere, although YouTube is still useful, the rest are imo mostly a distraction and a place for introduction.
Your coming and going seems to blend nicely with my own coming and going of absorbing more aggressive and “out there” perspectives to more introspective and relaxed ideas. Or maybe it’s the master and the emissary that both need to take turns looking and listening from different places… your timing is impeccable 😉
Sorry the JFK jnr is really a nice guy just does wash. He sold out by joining Trump, his management of the health service is a disaster i.e. the measles outbreak and the antivax messaging. And his position on Gaza. Perhaps because he is your friend you are misguided.
Dear Charles, I have just listened to your podcast with Brett Weinstein. I think the avenues and possibilities that were opened up regarding amnesty etc are incredibly helpful. If we are to move out of the rut in which we find ourselves and actually spark real change, then these are precisely the sort of conversations we need to be having. We need practical "what to do nows" Creative thinking at it's best and I am grateful to you and to Brett for starting the process of lancing the abscess.
Having read your post & listened to at least half of the Darkhorse podcast, I think somewhere along the way I lost my scorecard. So my comment may or may not be applicable to anything & everything.
Specifically with regard to RFKj, I agree it is very difficult to square the logic that the #1 health concern in America is anti-semitism. However, the last Kennedy train I was on was RFK, Sr. So fortunately I have not put any of my eggs in that basket. With regard to Israel & Gaza, Lady Karma has enough material for eternity.
The one takeaway that I did want to touch on is the spiritual component. I don’t think it is hyperbole to say humanity is looking into the abyss. It is hard to see how this turns out for the best. If there is an answer, it must/can only be found in the spiritual dimension. Problem is since the beginning of time, man has tried to force materialize spirit & that can’t be done-oil & water don’t mix. Setting aside the religion of the Bible, this concept is repeatedly stated - God is spirit & can only be worshipped in spirit. my kingdom is not of THIS world, seek first the kingdom of God & all things will be added. At the risk of sounding like Walter Mitty, at some point we (& by that I mean individuals not collections of) have got to consider that the spiritual dimension is not only real, it is the only reality.& that we are only ‘seeing thru a glass darkly’. Bottomline, man, collectively, will not change until individually we see him as he is —made in the prefect image & likeness of God - Spirit.
Thank you Charles. Regarding the last point, i'd just like to say that in my view this conflict is deliberately misrepresented by the billionaire elite (both israeli and arab) and their narrative managers in a manipulative distorted manner as if it is a conflict between ordinary jews and ordinary muslims, between ordinary israelis and ordinary palestinians, when in reality it is a war waged by the billionaire ruling class (both jewish and arab) on the have-nots (both jewish and arab
Here are a few key facts that clearly illustrate this
1) The Zionist ruling class has spent over a century carrying out a brutal campaign of dispossession, dehumanization, expulsion, torture, abuse, rape, and mass murder against local palestinians—not merely for territorial conquest, but to maintain control over ordinary Israeli Jews. It might not be immediately clear for those not familiar with the dynamics involved but the systematic violence and dispossesion against palestinians actually indirectly serves a dual purpose for the israeli ruling class: 1) to severely economically exploit the Israeli public and enrich themselves. and 2) to prevent our rising up against the billionaire elite in power. How does their ruthless violence against the indigenous palestinians achieves these goals for the israeli elite? Through the "Boogeyman Enemy" principle—a well-documented tactic of elite control (explained in depth here (https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/oppressors-need-bogeyman-enemies).
The relentless cruelty, dispossesion, dehumanization, mass-murder, terrorism and abuse by the zionist state is deliberately designed to provoke Palestinian anger, resistance and backlash, which the zionist regime then frames as an unprovoked antisemite attack against jews for being jews. By deliberately fostering and manufacturing this tribalist hostility and fear, the zionist billionaires (and their representitives in the israeli govt) position themselves as the "indispensable protectors" of Israeli Jews, all while enforcing severe economic exploitation of israelis and suppressing dissent.
The manipulative narrative that the zionist elite and their narrative managers sell us is this: "You face a savage, irrational enemy—one that hates you simply for being Jewish (never mind the decades of occupation and brutal murderous violence we've inflicted on them). Only we, the patriotic billionaires and our political puppets, can shield you from this danger. So you need to rally around the flag and unite behind your great patriotic leader, who really really loves you and really really wants to protect you from that evil enemy over there who is coming to get you. And don't ever dare question our authority over you or think about removing from power over you—lest the ‘antisemitic barbarians’ destroy you."
This is not speculation. Mainstream Israeli sources themselves expose these tactics. For proof, see this profoundly important report https://www.pdrboston.org/israel-s-government-attacks-jews-to.
In short: The oppression of Palestinians is a tool to control Israelis. The real enemy of ordinary israelis isn’t palestinians resisting their dispossesion, massacre and decades of brutal cruel violence and dehumanization—it’s the oligarchs who profit from perpetual tribalist division, fear, hate and war.
2) From its inception, Zionist leadership has pursued an agenda fundamentally hostile to Jewish working-class interests. Even during the Holocaust, their priorities were chillingly clear: **zionist (elite-ruled) state over jewish lives.** When opportunities arose to rescue Jews from Nazi genocide, Zionist leaders actively opposed them, because such efforts did not serve their political goal of establishing a state of their own (under their control). See evidence below. Ziionist ultra-wealthy leaders needed dead Jews to use as bargaining chips to elicit world sympathy and guilt-trip humanity into not objecting when they implemented their planned ethnic-cleansing of the indigenous people to create their state.
This is not speculation. Mainstream Jewish sources themselves document this betrayal—proof that Zionist elites have long sacrificed ordinary Jews for their own ideological and geopolitical ambitions. For the evidence, see this detailed exposé https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/why-really-zionist-leaders-have-always?r=1iggn.
For the manipulative Zionist billionaire ruling class, Jewish lives were NEVER the priority. The priority was always their control and position at the top of the pyramid in their OWN carved-out fiefdom - the israeli state
3) For decades, Israeli rulers have deliberately funded and bolstered Hamas—a policy that continues to this day!! Why? To ensure the "boogeyman enemy" remains a potent threat, justifying perpetual militarization, repression, and public fear. This is not conspiracy; it is well-documented strategy.
Mainstream sources confirm that Israeli leadership—from Netanyahu’s multiple governments to military officials—has repeatedly propped up Hamas to both undermine Palestinian unity, and to manufacture a frightening adversary with which to scare israelis into compliance and loyalty to them (the zionist oligarchs and their political puppets). They do this in order to sustain the manipulative narrative of an existential threat from an irrationally antisemite enemy , ensuring the compliance of ordinary israelis and justifying their endless cycles of brutal mass-murdering attacks on the indigenous people (the cycles that sustain the perpetual tribalist division, fear, hate and war, upon which the ruling class thrive and upon which they depend for their control over us).
Read the proof of this based on mainstream sources here https://www.pdrboston.org/israel-funds-hamas-keeps-it-in-power. And here https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/there-should-not-be-a-jewish-state?r=1iggn
4) Hamas, like its counterparts in the Israeli ruling class, also serves the interests of billionaires—not the people it claims to represent, as exposed here https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/hamas-leaders-are-billionaires-who?r=1iggn, its political leaders (who live outside of palestine) amass obscene wealth while ordinary palestinians suffer and are slaughtered en masse by heavily-propagandized & hypnotized zionist tribalists.
Hamas got votes NOT because Palestinians desired an Islamic theocracy, but because it positioned itself as the lesser of two evils—an alternative to the Palestinian Authority (PA), a corrupt proxy regime bankrolled by Israeli and Western oligarchs to crush Palestinian resistance. The PA exists to enforce the orders of the zionist billionaire ruling class, making Hamas—despite its authoritarianism—appear to ordinary palestinians as the only force willing to confront the murderous evil of Zionist colonization, abuse, torture and dispossesion
This is the same cynical playbook used by right-wing fascists everywhere: Zionist neo-Nazis in Israel (bankrolled by jewish billionaires) win votes by fearmongering about "evil enemies" and promising that "we will protect you from those evil people who for some strange unknown reason are hostile towards the zionist regime (must be antisemitism, no other explanation)", in the exact same way as Hamas gains support by posing as Gaza’s "defenders." The same right-wing billionaires' playbook everywhere. The goal is always the same—to manipulate the 99% (the non-ruling class) into viewing our billionaire oppressors and jailors as our "protectors from that evil enemy over there who is coming to get you".
Bravo!! It’s refreshing to see at least one clear-thinking Jewish voice that hasn’t been entirely consumed by the elite’s relentless indoctrination—their toxic brew of nationalism, religious tribalism, and divide-and-rule tactics.
In a time when so many have been swayed by these manipulative divisive narratives, your refusal to conform to the tribalism and your stand for truth and human dignity, exposing the exact divide-and-rule tricks that the oligarchs play on us, is both rare and commendable. Keep speaking truth.
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Follow the money and you always find the real culprits. The class war never stopped.
Thank you for this. (Jews Reject Zionist Supremacy) Now it finally makes sense.
Another perspective comes when reading the Harold W Rosenthal interview from the 1970’s
https://antimatrix.org/Convert/Books/DarylBradfordSmith/DarylBradfordSmith_Rosenthal.html#Lucifer_is_very_much_alive
Thank you for sharing this. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss it.
Before addressing the authenticity of the so-called "interview" you referenced, I’d like first to put it in a larger context. This document is just one of many fabricated narratives that circulate within ideological echo chambers—whether among religious tribalists, Zionists, neo-Nazis, Hindu supremacists, Christian nationalists or Muslim fundamentalists. Each of these groups is fed a steady diet of manufactured "evidence" designed to stoke fear and hatred of "the other."
This is not accidental. The billionaire ruling class—comprised of elites from all religious and national backgrounds—relies on **divide-and-rule** as their most effective weapon. By redirecting the justified anger of the 99% (ordinary non-elite people) toward religious or ethnic scapegoats, they ensure we never unite against the real architects of human misery and the control of the few over the many.
This brilliant essay https://johnspritzler.substack.com/p/i-found-it-the-misplaced-owners-manual illustrates this manipulation with biting sarcasm, framing it as a "manual" for elites on how to control populations by fostering division. Similarly, the *Bogeyman Enemy* tactic—explained in depth here https://www.pdrboston.org/oppressors-need-bogeyman-enemies —reveals how fear of a "monstrous other" is used by the elite to keep the 99% divided, hateful and fighting each other. Please do read these two profoundly important essays. IMHO they are essential reading for every human on the planet who wishes to understand exactly how we are being played.
I myself was labeled "Jewish" at birth—a designation I had no say in. Yet, because of fabricated documents like the one you shared, some well-intentioned but misled individuals now see me (and others like me) as part of some sinister plan to destroy you. This is **precisely** how the ruling class operates:
- To Israelis, they say: "Palestinians are your existential threat! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Palestinians, they say: "Jews want to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Christians, they say: "Jews and Muslims are your enemies and want to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
- To Hindus, they say: "Muslims are coming to destroy you! You need to fear and hate them"
The goal is always the same: Keep ordinary people fighting each other so we never question the oligarchs pulling the strings.
My Stance Against Sectarianism -
As I’ve written here https://open.substack.com/pub/headandheart1/p/my-perspective-on-the-conflict-in, I reject **all** forms of religious supremacy and tribalist thinking—whether Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or Hindu. The belief that one group is inherently superior (or uniquely threatened) is not just morally bankrupt, it’s the very mechanism that perpetuates division, fear, violence and elite control over us.
As I wrote in the linked post that i just shared:
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT FOR THE WHOLE, SECURITY ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY.
Why i said that This "Interview" is a Fabrication-
1. No record of it exists anywhere. There’s no audio, video, or transcript in any official archive (Senate records, Library of Congress, or Senator Javits’ office). The sole "source" is a typed document from a well-known neo-Nazi propagandist.
In the document it says that it is being taped. Have you ever heard this tape? No one has. It doesn't exist!!
2. Conveniently published years after Rosenthal’s death. The alleged "interviewee" couldn’t refute or corroborate it. How convenient..
3. Rosenthal was a low-level staffer in an administrative function in a senator office, not some powerful shadowy mastermind as he's presented in the fabricated document. He had ZERO influence on any policy making of even one senator, let alone an entire country or the world.
4. His former colleagues (including Senator Javits) unanimously claimed he never held such views as attributed to him in the so-called "interview", calling the document a total fabrication. And that in fact he was strongly opposed to the ideas that are attributed to him in this made-up "interview".
They also commented that besides the actual forged content, also the style of speaking and behaving that is attributed to Rosenthal in the document is completely opposite to Rosenthal's common behavior which they have known for years.
Historian Dr. Michael Barkun has extensively studied this forged Rosenthal document from many angles and has concluded that it is a clear hoax—I highly recommend reading his research on this for deeper analysis. I obviously cannot go into book-size details in the limited space for a comment here
Final Thought - The real enemy isn’t "Muslims," "Jews" "Christians," or "Hindus." It’s the tiny elite that profits from our division. The ruling ckass (which is comprised of all religions) is not divided as we are and in fact work TOGETHER to divide us (as can be seen very clearly in the links i shared above). If we keep falling for their tricks, we’ll remain trapped in endless cycles of fear, hatred, violence and their domination over us—while they laugh all the way to the bank.
Besides the links to the very important essays that i shared above (which i do highly recommemd reading), I also share extensively on this on my profile page, which you're very welcome to view.
Thank you for your time and attention
I was raised in a Zionist Jewish family and felt a lot of affinity towards Israel growing up. In fact in June of 1967 I attended a teenage Zionist summer camp in the Catskills (Camp Tel Yehuda). If you recall that was the same month as the Six Day War. From the moment I arrived, there was an overwhelming feeling of relief and celebration that our wonderful little nation was victorious, the David who conquered the evil Goliath Arabs who surrounded them. How naive I was!
Six decades later here’s how I see it. I don’t hate anyone, even the murderous psychopaths who are engaged in genocide, deceit, terror and manipulation. Having been on a spiritual journey for many years, the only way I can maintain sanity and well being is to stay connected to my heart - there is no place for hatred there. But what is a total turn off to me is criminal behavior which I recognize is all over the place. And criminals come in every religion, race, creed, gender and nationality. And when I see it, I’m gaining the courage to call it out.
I don’t know if the Rosenthal interview is real or not. Same goes for the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and lots of other stuff I’ve seen or heard. But I do believe that the USS Liberty was attacked and many atrocities have been done by Israel and their neighbors have as well. Some of my close friends are Israelis. And I’ve also had several Palestinian ones. But I’m aware there are low life’s who do awful things - I pray that they are exposed and people start to wake up. This is my position and I’ll stand by it.
And I look forward to reading your Substack.
Makes sense to me. Just wondering if you are actually John Spritzler?
I am not 🙂
Ok. I admit I need some help, some increased empathy or something, when a friend who grew up in Israel calmly, rationally explains to me why they must kill as many Palestinians as necessary to destroy armed resistance to their Occupation of Gaza for the security of Israel.
Have you tried putting yourself in their shoes? Imagine the propaganda they've been exposed to and then imagine that your whole life from the moment you're born and almost everyone around you exposed their whole lives too. Then try starting with the sentence, "I'm so sorry...." and insert something you feel sorry that they believe and why they believe it.
I practice unconditional compassion (often times very hard) and you have to realise that compassion doesn't require judgement or agreeing with what someone believes. Just an understanding that we're all human, all prone to the same mistakes and propaganda (propaganda exists because it works).
Propaganda works because humans are much more manipulable than other animals who operate more on instinct—who would react violently (fight or flight) seeing their neighbors slaughtered! Yes, today we live in a “Media massage” and it’s so staggeringly effective the world watches dumbly as thousands of innocents are murdered and murmurs, “Too bad, I guess it’s necessary…”
The best thing I have seen on Israel/Palestine is a talk by Rich Forer, a Jewish American man, who grew up supporting Israel, as he was expected to do, until he realized he wanted to study the true history of Israel. When he did, he had an awakening. It's a beautiful talk showing how people believe in extraordinary things -- until they don't. I have always wanted RFK Jr. to watch this talk. love, shanti in auroville, india
Hi Shanti. I'm adding your link here, so people can find it along with your comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S_r6WsJfzY&t=5s
Thank you for giving this information on Rich Forer's talk. It's such a brilliant discussion of his search for truth, and ability to accept that truth. It's very moving.
To change anything in the world, we have to first change our relationship with it in us, and have curiosity about another person's (the enemy, the evil one) conditioning that lead to their position. And we must remember that there is a lot of deep subconscious stuff in everyone's conditioning!
Thank you Charles for continually presenting another way of looking at the world, beyond the polarization that keeps us divided, at least in our minds. As many times as I can remember to, the simplest, most centering and I believe the most radical, the most helpful, the most transformational response to all the trauma is love and compassion ❤️ 🙏🏽🌎
Thanks so much for your ongoing works, Charles. I will weigh in and say I do wish you wouldn't depart from publishing your articles Substack. Why not both here and CE.com? Substack is a good, if imperfect, platform and community. Not sure why you wouldn't want to keep the greater distribution of wisdom.
Sounds like he will still publish here too, but the body of the essay here will include a link to the full essay on charleseisenstein.org
Maybe Benjamin Netanyahu and his government colleagues are leading the people in a bad direction? Isn't there a difference between the state and the people of a country? If covid has taught us nothing else surely that is now clear, at least to some of us?
So in this case why is RFK Jr supporting the Israeli state and playing down (to put it at its kindest) the human cost of that state's actions?
Absolutely. He has not displayed the qualities Charles lists since he signed on with an oligarch who is destroying our country. Flipped the election likely as well. The man Charles describes is not the same one I know him to be.
Your voice has been missed. I hope to hear more frequently from you going forward. These are some perilous times.
Yes I think it’s a great idea to use Substack like social media and post longer articles on your website.
I think we’re all going to need to direct people who are interested in our work to our own sites. Social media is curated, algorithmic manipulation infects the platforms in ways that over time becomes less useful for many people.
If we want to freely speak or (in my case) make ‘niche’ music then we need to attract genuine curiosity rather than casual scrolling.
Those curious from snippets or newsletters will seek out more detailed work, that’s the kind of attention that has far more meaning than numbers of likes. Also people will share articles and essays when they like them.
In general social media is for me a form of ‘advertising’ to direct people’s attention towards other things elsewhere, although YouTube is still useful, the rest are imo mostly a distraction and a place for introduction.
Completely agreed!
Your coming and going seems to blend nicely with my own coming and going of absorbing more aggressive and “out there” perspectives to more introspective and relaxed ideas. Or maybe it’s the master and the emissary that both need to take turns looking and listening from different places… your timing is impeccable 😉
Sorry the JFK jnr is really a nice guy just does wash. He sold out by joining Trump, his management of the health service is a disaster i.e. the measles outbreak and the antivax messaging. And his position on Gaza. Perhaps because he is your friend you are misguided.
I felt this about RFK. I can sense his heart. He is the only one, though. God bless him, he has a heavy load.
Isreal has something over the world, something we dont know about, I fear
Dear Charles, I have just listened to your podcast with Brett Weinstein. I think the avenues and possibilities that were opened up regarding amnesty etc are incredibly helpful. If we are to move out of the rut in which we find ourselves and actually spark real change, then these are precisely the sort of conversations we need to be having. We need practical "what to do nows" Creative thinking at it's best and I am grateful to you and to Brett for starting the process of lancing the abscess.
Your conversation with Bret was interesting and compelling. I listened to it twice, which I almost never do. Thanks for that.
heartbroken and mindbroken. Reality is warping.
I don’t even frame it as a war of sides anymore. It seems more accurate to now say it’s Empire against The People.
Thank you, always.
Having read your post & listened to at least half of the Darkhorse podcast, I think somewhere along the way I lost my scorecard. So my comment may or may not be applicable to anything & everything.
Specifically with regard to RFKj, I agree it is very difficult to square the logic that the #1 health concern in America is anti-semitism. However, the last Kennedy train I was on was RFK, Sr. So fortunately I have not put any of my eggs in that basket. With regard to Israel & Gaza, Lady Karma has enough material for eternity.
The one takeaway that I did want to touch on is the spiritual component. I don’t think it is hyperbole to say humanity is looking into the abyss. It is hard to see how this turns out for the best. If there is an answer, it must/can only be found in the spiritual dimension. Problem is since the beginning of time, man has tried to force materialize spirit & that can’t be done-oil & water don’t mix. Setting aside the religion of the Bible, this concept is repeatedly stated - God is spirit & can only be worshipped in spirit. my kingdom is not of THIS world, seek first the kingdom of God & all things will be added. At the risk of sounding like Walter Mitty, at some point we (& by that I mean individuals not collections of) have got to consider that the spiritual dimension is not only real, it is the only reality.& that we are only ‘seeing thru a glass darkly’. Bottomline, man, collectively, will not change until individually we see him as he is —made in the prefect image & likeness of God - Spirit.
He said that? Wow. I am changing my opinion rapidly