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Can't wait to read the essay. So far, I agree 100%. The I Ching says: "The best way to fight evil is making energetic progress in the good." The devil is God's footman, not his opponent.

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Daoist theory also says that when Yin becomes extreme it turns to Yang, and when Yang becomes extreme it turns to Yin.

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The Baphomet Agenda in a nutshell.

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I don't see it as an agenda. I see it as Nature expressing itself, just like seasonal progression and the diurnal cycles.

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Raping children? 🤮

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You are the one talking about raping children, not me. I was talking about Daoist theory. I have no idea what you are talking about. Have fun out in left field by yourself.

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Oh that is indeed an excellent perspective. Do you know what passage in the i-ching that is from?

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Hexagram 43, Breakthrough, in the Richard Wilhelm translation: "In a resolute struggle of the good against evil, there are, however, definite rules that must not be disregarded, if it is to succeed. First, resolution must be based on a union of strength and friendliness. Second, a compromise with evil is not possible; evil must under all circumstances be openly discredited. Nor must our own passions and shortcomings be glossed over. Third, the struggle must not be carried on directly by force. If evil is branded, it thinks of weapons, and if we do it the favor of fighting against it blow for blow, we lose in the end because thus we ourselves get entangled in hatred and passion. Therefore it is important to begin at home, to be on guard in our own persons against the faults we have branded. In this way, finding no opponent, the sharp edges of the weapons of evil becomes dulled. For the same reasons we should not combat our own faults directly. As long as we wrestle with them, they continue victorious. Finally, the best way to fight evil is to make energetic progress in the good."

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Also, Jung's _Red Book_ --

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/a0ucch/carl_jung_on_good_and_evil_and_the_tree_of/

(I take no position re: JP in general, but the extensive Jung quote seems worthwhile.)

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Dec 4, 2022·edited Dec 4, 2022

I'm looking forward to reading you.

In the meantime, here's a hypothesis I'd like to be challenged.

Most of the evil actions are perpetrated by people who believe they're doing the right thing ; and the source of evil actually lays in the structures of our societies.

This could explain the gulag in Soviet Union (people were sent there to "protect and save the system", in short) and this could explain the horrors of Covid in a capitalist system.

When people are in charge of ensuring investors will have a return on investment, and believe it's their priority, they will work on it:

If a company they run is in competition with other companies and they have to make the prices as low as they can in order not to lose a market (so as not to go bankrupt), such costs as protecting the environment, ensuring safety in the factories, giving correct wages for the workers etc. will be limited as much as possible, leading to pollution, accidents and poverty.

If people run an investment fund, the right thing for them to do is to maximize the return on investment of their investors, so as to attract new investors and keep their business working; they'll *need* to find a profitable sector to invest in and make sure the laws or the media will not interfere with their expected profit. This can apply to pharmaceutical companies, which is a sector worse investing in because of the huge profit it can make. But profit will collapse if regulators start blocking some products or if the public believes the products are not "safe and effective" or if there exist a cheaper alternative. Protecting the perspectives of profit may require corrupting a few people and the media, but that is for a good reason: ensuring there will be an attractive return on investment.

If they fail, a pyramid of companies might collapse (pharmaceutical companies, investment funds, banks, and then the whole capitalist system !) So they really have no choice...

This is a very short summary of how they can be led to commit mass crimes in order to fulfill a mission they believe is "righteous" and an absolute priority.

So a real victory would be to change the structures of society, in a way it won't *push* people to do evil things anymore...

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"Most of the evil actions are perpetrated by people who believe they're doing the right thing ; and the source of evil actually lays in the structures of our societies."

It would be more accurate to turn this around: the life-constraining, soul-destroying structures of our societies are emergent properties of our lop-sided moral assumptions, including the various simplistic moralities promoted by Eisenstein himself. Eisenstein thinks all we need is more "compassion" and "empathy" and "cooperation" and "love" - completely oblivious to the fact that it is the overvaluation of these traits - as well as a misunderstanding of their nature - that has led us to this mess. Any worldview that smacks too much of the New Age will never save us because New Age believers are always censoring out and softening whatever aspects of nature and human nature make them uncomfortable. They are like the speaker Blake's poem The Lamb and don't like thinking about The Tyger - they are all Songs of Innocence, never Songs of Experience. That includes Eisenstein.

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well said. i believe it's a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature.

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Is this an example of what used to be called a "Mexican Standoff?" IIRC, it didn't end well for The Wild Bunch.

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Dec 5, 2022·edited Dec 5, 2022

How would you "structure society" exactly? It insinuates removal of free will and socialism. Removing the free market and capitalism will not deter people from evil acts.

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We have to remove the ideology of capitalism in ourselves and heal the collective trauma that perpetuates it. That trauma is a result of thousands of years of empire and wars of all against all, based in the notion that humans are separate from nature and each other, that we can profit at nature and humanity's expense without injuring ourselves.

You are right that this new system cannot come about through force. That has been tried, and it failed. That doesn't mean we don't need to move beyond capitalism, it just means the change has to happen from the bottom up rather than the top down.

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I think there is a problem with using the word “evil”, and it’s at the core of this and any heated debate: to call someone or someone’s behavior evil is to Other them in such a fashion that nothing of value can be seen. I believe that moral judgments are not helpful when speaking of or to other people. It may be true that most people make such judgments, but moral judgments simply do not work and hence are not useful. Why? Well, let’s look at it more closely. What does calling someone or some behavior evil actually say or mean? It doesn’t tell us anything about the other person or behavior, because saying so and so, or such and such, is evil doesn’t depict anything. It suggests, yes, and one can imagine all sorts of things in response to hearing the word Evil, but fundamentally it speaks only of the person who uttered the words, of his or her own outrage and, yes, of moral superiority. It really says nothing at all about the other, it only announces the speaker’s own position or feelings. So how can this word be useful? A judgmental word like Evil does nothing to unite people or foster a greater understanding of others. It pushes people away and apart.

I believe we are all much more alike than we are different. And modern genetics bears this out, (if you trust the geneticists.) i also celebrate our differences, flaws and all, for they make us who we are as individuals. But I also believe that we all of us have the same set of emotions and feelings, and the same fundamental needs, and that it is a gross misunderstanding of another person to call them evil. You do not have to like another person to want to understand them and why they behave as they do, or to find this useful in communication. But calling that other person or group or behavior “evil” means you no longer wish to understand, you intend only to judge them and by such judgment exclude them from the rest of “more or less good” humanity.

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Not believing in the utility of calling out or seeing evil for what it is allows evil to maintain it’s grip over any society that loses it’s description of it. If we are unable to see and call out the evil that dwells within ourselves, then it will run rampant as we will be unwilling to see it and define it in others. It is useful to call it out and “project” it onto others, as long as we know it is a reflection of the same evil within us. This is, in my opinion the entire purpose of religion, to see and experience yourself in the world... you are a reflection of the world as the world is a reflection of you.

I think Paul Levy summarizes Carl Jung well in his 2020 essay when he writes:

Jung was of the opinion that if we have no imagination for evil, “evil has us in its grip.” Being out of touch with our own potential for evil ensures that we will unknowingly act it out. If we don’t develop a multi-faceted imagination for evil, there is no way for us to know what we are up against.

“ - https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/carl-jung-imagination-evil?format=amp

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And I think religion, like capitalism, is a terrible thing, so there you have it.

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Then it seems like your judgment just found a bigger collective since you seem averse to casting judgment at the individual level. Have you thought about why this might be?

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I think that no one is fully evil; everyone has some good in them, or it's buried way deep down. Imo, they are "lost" souls; they have literally lost sight of what is truly meaningful, good, love, kindness, peace, humbleness, humility. Even the ones labeled as "evil" may be carrying out their evil for what they see as "good". Babies are born inherently incapable of doing bad. Bad deeds, thoughts are responses that get ingrained. Only love can beat what we term as "evil". If we fight evil some people may say we are stooping to their level by fighting back but it could also be seen as self-defense. Quite a complicated concept/topic.

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I think the reason that the Covid tyranny seems so bad (besides simply being the worst & most immediate example for most of us in our lifetimes) is that we find it hard to explain or understand. And that the apparent evil has been done in the name of public health & well-being, so that there is quite a disconnect between the expressions of concern by public officials, and the reality.

It's only just starting to dawn on many people that the benevolence is in fact a sham - and it still confuses us, we who do not really get psychopathic behaviour.

There are only 2 explanations (not mutually exclusive) for the pandemonium:

1) that our leaders were well-intentioned but misguided, driven by some sort of mass hysteria or crowd pressure in a hyped-up emergency situation to act as they did, totally scrapping all the previous soundly-based pandemic guidance & planning, or

2) this was a grand plan master-minded by psychopaths who want to depopulate the world.

These are the 2 main stories we tell ourselves to make sense of it, though there are variations too, including simple greed and the desire to grab power.

The first story has become harder & harder to sustain, as the evidence of jab harm rolls in, along with evidence of lockdown harm with its economic & social damage.

Yes, public institutions are subject to massive inertia and only change course very slowly (though the curious exception has been the covid policies back in early 2020) - and politicians never admit to error if they can help it. But somehow, the concerted push to suppress, dismiss, hide, cover-up, and all backed by legal recourse (eg doctors being disciplined by regulatory boards, etc) is hard to explain without invoking some sort of truly sinister explanation. (Big Pharma has often had products, including vaccines, prove to be dangerous, and they have simply dealt with the fines & moved on.)

So that leaves Evil as the explanation.

The genocidal action of the colonial invaders can be explained by greed, the desire for conquest and riches. It's bad (in retrospect) - but we understand it.

Most of us conceptualise the Nazi Holocaust as "evil", without trying to make any further sense of it - we seem to have some sort of inbuilt understanding of "evil", and generally accept it as an explanation sufficient to itself.

Perhaps the Chinese who suffered and died in The Great Leap Forward also initially believed in the good intentions of their government. Until it was too late. But it is still hard to make sense of it without invoking "evil", especially as the consequences became more & more apparent.

What all of these (and the Covid actions) have in common, is a callous disregard for human life and welfare. Sometimes this is due to ignorance and distance from the suffering (which helps if you are not actually a psychopath). We can see this from our western perspective, contemplating the colonial exploitation of the New World (including slavery and genocide).

But with the Covid action, most of us trying to understand & deal with it are now in the position of the victims, not the perpetrators. Most of us have not benefitted from the massive transfer of wealth that occurred over the past 2 years. Most of us (and if not we, the enlightened few who are reading this, then our friends and families) believed that our governments & public health officials were genuinely trying to do a difficult job in a time of great emergency.

And maybe some of them were...

But now we are left confused by the refusal to acknowledge the emerging evidence of excess deaths all over the world, of damage to fertility, of other galloping health problems in all age groups. We don't quite know what to make of it, other than to see it as a massive orchestrated campaign of war against us, the people.

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Those aren't the only two possibilities. There is also a third, one I believe is correct:

Human nature is and always has been essentially more egoistic than altruistic - altruism, insofar as we can even say it exists at all, is a secondary offshoot of egoism. But since we live in a time and place where altruism and "sacrificing for others" is considered the ultimate good and the ultimate sign of good character, it's easy for any of us to deceive ourselves about our own motiviations: whether we are a politician, a police officer, or the president of Pfizer and Moderna, we can tell ourselves and convince ourselves we are deeply driven by altruism and humane concern for the general welfare, when really we aren't.

Representatives of Big Pharma may tell themselves that they lobby governments for mandatory vaccine passports and digital ID, a total control grid, because vaccines save lives and the world would be an infinitely better place (a disease free utopia) if everybody on earth had to get constant vaccines and boosters if they wanted to participate in society. But that's just self-deception. Really, they want power and control for themselves: as in the "altruistic" worlds of communist China, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany, the apparently benign motives quickly gave way to jockeying for power and total domination.

Freud may have been wrong about a lot, but he was right about the frequent disjunct between our unconscious drives and our conscious rationalizations of those drives.

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Maybe tptb see us as animals to exploit. Like factory farming, we are in farmed in cities and culled as needed. Tbtp feel that nature is, including us humans are their resource to use/raise as they please. If they want entertainers they will foster/create performers.

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Great encapsulation of the crises of mind and heart. Intention matters.

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Beautiful, Charles— I agree that “we need to cultivate alternatives to war consciousness” and also we need to dissolve the causes of war within ourselves. 🤍

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Exactly - I have this feeling that if we dissolved the war within ourselves we wouldn't see war the same way outside of us anymore. I can exactly correlate this with my daily experience - I see negativity all around me when I am feeling negative inside, and vice versa. This affects how peaceful (or not) my interactions with the world around me are.

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I’m excited to follow this series of essays. Wonderful to go all the way down the rabbit hole with you! Thank you for tackling this most profound and mysterious subject, Charles.

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Charles, are you familiar with the book Political Ponerology, by Andrew Lobaczewski? Evil (organized psychopathy) is always with us, its ascension aided by denial of its existence. It can be managed and defanged, but only if it is detected and its harmful actions punished.

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This is a fascinating read, I must admit. Made even more fascinating by its own story of how it came to be written and shared.

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Dec 4, 2022·edited Dec 4, 2022

i urge charles and anyone else convinced of the ‘lab leak’ theory to revisit the work of those who are highlighting the shortcomings, and possibly the complete fraudulence, of the cell culture experiments that are at the core of modern virology (and the way we supposedly know that viruses exist).

additionally i invite everyone to read about the rosenau spanish flu experiments - the only instance i am aware of in which scientists have attempted to cause direct human - human infection. (un)surprisingly: “It seemed that what was acknowledged to be one of the most contagious of communicable diseases could not be transferred under experimental conditions.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862332/#!po=60.7527

if the 'no viruses' camp are indeed correct, i don’t think that changes the relevance of the message in this article. it can still be correct that the ultimate ’driver of the bus’ is our story of separation - (thanks charles, love your work, it inspires me daily). but wow, no viruses!? what a trip!

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see, for example:

tom cowan's back catalogue of webinars. i liked this one: https://www.bitchute.com/video/LDr95jG08oa0/

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Those who seek to challenge basic science should first learn basic science.

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what's the basic science of virology as you understand it?

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There are better ways for you to learn that than random comments on internet blogs. You'll find the effort very worthwhile.

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All of that I could deal with. Finding out it was all a cover so they can rape children & drink their blood in ritual…I can’t. 

You’re an extremely smart guy…you must’ve heard the terms adrenochrome & Frazzledrip, right? 

I love your work but I feel you ARE very cautious. Not afraid…cautious. 

Clearly these particular atrocities against babies & kids cannot just be dismissed as tin foil hat nonsense anymore?

Fritz Springmeier has very powerful books on the Illuminati. And Jessie Czebotar is a defector who was groomed to be a Mother of Darkness for their end times agenda. 

Luciferianism truly does run: the money, the airwaves, the Vatican, NY, DC, education, healthcare. 

It has infiltrated every aspect of our lives down to our food supply & our sham voting. 

I am neither a cynic nor skeptic: I’m a frustrated & thwarted mystic/social justice being. 

Both right & left wings are anchored on a diseased & dying bird. 

I would’ve never believed any of it if I wasn’t personally targeted & hazed by this faction relentlessly from 2018 until now. 

The Kardashians alone: genuine evil in action. Mean girls with extreme money & cruelty. 

I feel they get hijacked. 

Evil hops bodies. 

I know that sounds science fiction-y…but I’ve seen it. 

I tend to lean with your wife on this one. 

They know exactly what they are doing. 

There’s an element to this that is simply not human. 

You cannot reason with a demon. 

There ARE benevolent counterforces as well…or we’d have been cooked long ago. 

Do we all have a Sith & a Jedi within us? Sure. 

That said? George Lucas probably raped, killed and drank a few people’s blood to get where he is. 

The Secret part of the Secret Societies is blood & sex magic. 

ON CHILDREN. 

So victory against THAT…is a must. It’s not negotiable. 

But it’s more a victory of transparency over secrecy, action over outrage, and exposing these heinous baby rape/murder practices: to end them. 

It really is another kind of holocaust. Less boots on the ground & more inner consciousness transmutation. 

But it will require fighting. 

It will. 

SO we who prefer peace and the greater good have to look at ALL aspects of life: including shining a light on the darkness. 

Whether we like it or not. 

I know I’ve suffered immensely thinking that while some kid is getting trafficked or raped twenty or more times a day, Trump was blithely golfing or petulantly tweeting. And Biden is no better. He’s absolutely Illuminati puppetry at its most absurd. 

It’s long past a time we could pretend that left vs right were remotely relevant. That’s just another distraction farce. 

It’s the ancient war.

Good vs evil.

Extinction vs evolution. 

And failure? Is not an option.

~CAW (aka Courtney A Walsh) 

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Courtney,

Sorry for what you have endured. I think one of the biggest problems today is that we don't acknowledge the Spirit world and possession anymore. It never went away, we just stopped paying attention to our own detriment.

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Yes. Absolutely. Whether we call them demons, AI, dark aliens, archons, thoughtforms, entities or wetiko: they DO exist…And they HATE humanity. In my case it was more: rich, bored elites with access to hijacking the airwaves to attempt MK Ultra programming. Breaking that programming is extremely difficult: but not impossible.

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When I see previews for shows where people go into haunted dwellings and landscapes with no spiritual awareness or protection whatsoever, I cringe. I remember playing with a homemade Ouija board only once when I was younger, and after the terrible experience, never did it again. We don't get spirit world education anymore, and kids are the most open and susceptible.

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Excellent response. Thank you.

Also brings back to my other comment about the importance of familiarizing oneself with Wetiko, with any exploration of evil.

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I would like Charles to address this issue sometime, re: children. I don't know at all what is going on, yet I have noticed a greater preponderance of propaganda and targeting of children in media that points to your statements here, Courtney. Very dark, and increasing. Insidious. Just horrible.

Charles, I wonder if you have insights on this.

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The study of human evil is valuable. One of the best volumes on the matter is “people of the lie: the hope for healing human evil” by M. Scott Peck. The case examples he uses to prove his working hypothesis are disturbing, but important to read if you haven’t witnessed “every day evil” for yourself. It is much more subtle, and thus, is something we all must examine within ourselves if you believe that evil is a trait that is formed out of generational conditioning (epigenetics) and can then evolve to less obvious distinctions.

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Charles, I thank God for you; this topic has never seemed more ripe for exploration. My friends and I frequently question the nature and locus of evil: is it a state of mind; is it the purview of psychopaths; is it off planet; is it biblical; is it generational; is it rare, is it banal, is it even real? We ask because we want to understand what kind of forces we are up against that would set in motion so much suffering. I greatly appreciate the wise and diverse comments here and feel lucky to be in such a thoughtful, intelligent huddle. Thank you also Charles for your talk with Zach Bush on Farmers’ Foot Print and your dedication to permaculture. People like you and Zach make me proud and pleased to be alive despite and because of these seemingly dark times. In herbal medicine I believe a plant remedy grows near to where the poison does also. I wonder how this might factor into a discussion about evil. Sending love to everyone.

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Dec 5, 2022·edited Dec 7, 2022

This was very well written and you made many of your ideas and sentiments accessible. One thing I wanted to ask about was this statement: “And I am 99% a pacifist.” What do you mean by pacifist? How are you defining this term? How can you be certain of this estimate?

In trying to figure out what you meant, I reflected this toward myself and the yoga idea of ahimsa which is non-harming and non-violence. While it feels humbling and idealistic to view my actions as non-harmful or mostly non-harmful, it is unrealistic for me to estimate myself as a 99% pacifist. Joseph Campbell in The Power of Myth talks about how accepting the reality that we must kill and harm to live (plant and animal products), is taking responsibility for my needs to live, needs which not only connect me to my reality but my spiritual essence. I must destroy to survive and I am dependent upon earth’s produce to do so.

While I see myself as acting non-violent, I accept violence as a part of nature (i.e. watching a gazelle get killed by a lion for food). As a human, I understand I have a choice in how I choose to act violently (participating in the meat industry). Does the existence of violence in human behavior make it natural as well?

Something else that made this comment stand out for me was you had just written a blog about your experience with Sacred Sons and learned that you enjoy fighting. I get the type of non-violent fighting you meant (such as your political activism), but in the instance in which you sparred with someone, did you consider that violence, all be it controlled and consensual? I suppose how one defines violence makes a difference.

Additionally, Americans make decisions everyday that keep us detached from how our behaviors may be harmful to others. Can I ensure that every aspect of the creation of this iPhone didn’t harm anyone or that the farmers who work at the farms where I get my food are making fair wages? How does shopping at Amazon contribute to ecological efforts of waste with all of the plastic and boxes involved in shipping? Am I absolved from harm when the taxes that I pay to the government buys guns that are placed in the hands of soldiers to kill humans? The reality is many of our actions inadvertently cause harm. I can do my best to remain vigilant but 99% feels a little high. What are your thoughts?

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Charles, I am honored that my interview with Sasha inspired a bickering session about the nature of evil. :) Jokes aside, thank you. Thought-provoking as always.

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Another masterpiece Charles, keep them coming please Word Warrior!

While evil cannot be denied and it is observably perpetuated by a limited number of human beings, I prefer to use the term ignorance.

To inflict 'evil' upon someone is a reflection that the perpetrator is disconnected from their true, authentic core and are projecting their pain and trauma upon others.

The solution is to become more conscious, which will result in wiser, more intelligent behaviours.

That's my two-penneth's worth!

Big respect from Bali,

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The search for evil foes to vanquish is an endless pursuit because it is everywhere. Those who wish to find it need only to look into a mirror -- it is within all of us, awaiting opportunities to emerge. That's the basis of the timeless expression that power corrupts, and biblical tales of universal sin. We try to counter that with training, and with the construction of societies to establish and enforce acceptable limits. That requires constant vigilance and discipline. When society succumbs to those impulses and becomes collectively evil, then we must try to develop new societies to defeat the destructive one that afflicts us. Short of that, we're each on our own, and life will devolve to survival of the fittest. The fittest will begin organizing new societies out of the rubble. The war continues. Life goes on.

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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” (Solzhenitsyn of course, but never more applicable IMO)

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