I read your stuff, Kevin because I like to understand both sides of the issues. I'm nauseated by you. You call the Hamas terrorists "noble and chivalrous fighters". So noble to hide in civilian clothes and use the people that elected you as human sheilds, not build bomb shelters for your people, but weapons depots in tunnels under hospit…
I read your stuff, Kevin because I like to understand both sides of the issues. I'm nauseated by you. You call the Hamas terrorists "noble and chivalrous fighters". So noble to hide in civilian clothes and use the people that elected you as human sheilds, not build bomb shelters for your people, but weapons depots in tunnels under hospitals! You call the Israeli hostages "prisoners". How can a baby be a prisoner? A baby?! A nine year old in wheelchair? Prisoners. In your own words. As for your other literature, the arguments exonerating radical islamists from wrong doing are weak, weak, weak. You've obviously done much mental gymnastics to makes zionists the big bogeyman. Your end game sounds real peaceful, Kevin. Mazel tov. I'm sure, women, children, homosexuals, jews, christians, druze, zoroastrians, beduins, and peaceful arabs are treated great by the "freedom fighters" you love so. Yes, the Syrian Civil War has taught us as much. Smdh
I'm sorry but you're confusing me with someome elae. My name is not Kevin and I didn't write any of the words that you're attributing to me here. I don't know who is this Kevin but you clearly didn't read anything of what I ACTUALLY wrote to you. Your reply has no relation whatsoever to what I wrote to you. You seem to be very confused. If you have an interest to engage with me then I invite you to read what I actually wrote to you. Be well.
I'm sorry if I confused you with Kevin, but perhaps we should talk about Kevin because you give credence and assent to his words. He is quoted in Dr. John's article that you referred me to and being new to the substack format, it was looking like that was the "first comment". The John Spritzler article that you posted is extremely weak on defending terrorists and Islamic extremists (see #2, not much to chew on, but there's predictably an insane 911 conspiracy linked there), but he does defend terrorists outright, as do you, handandheart, by proxy of the Norman Finkelstein-esque, 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' fan fiction that you so fervently write and promote. The anti-zionists are a community where the alt-right, the ultra left, and jihadists converge with identical revisionist history and rhetoric. Very strange bedfellows! In antisemitic circles, throughout time the "chosen people" concept has been used and misinterpreted to attack and humiliate Jewish people https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-quot-chosen-people-quot. The pilar of Judaism, that the jew haters want to ignore or are willfully ignorant of, is that every single human being (friends, enemies, jews, palestinians, EVERYONE) has a soul and every soul has a unique altruistic purpose to serve in this world. In short, jews acknowledge the inherent value of every single person and our interconnectedness because you and I are sparks of the divine. You can learn more about this concept here (amazing podcast series): https://open.spotify.com/episode/4zytTbmoXP7LB6iLSzKmTs?si=G-pXf6xWT5-7Mwz-mqNIIg
In the spirit of Hannukah, a holiday all about fighting religious persecution and bringing in miracles and light during dark times, every soul shall eventually shine their divine light and drive out this darkness that plagues our world.
Second reply (please see first one above from a few minutes ago). I know that you have a hard time finding the comment I mentioned above, so i thought i'd paste it for you here:
it seems to me (as someome who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' & 'Israeli') that the path forward out of this horror is not strictly in political arrangemnts (that's also important but secondary) but rather it lies in the heart of people, in the ability/capacity to see the humanity of another before viewing them as a label (palestinian, israeli, muslim, jew), as well as in coming to terms with and acknowledging the IMMENSE AND PROFOUND TRAUMA that each "side" has caused the other and in finding ways to heal together.
(and before I proceed I'd just like to say that unlike most Jews, I'm fully aware and acknowledge that the trauma that supremacist zionists caused the local people over the last century - in their brutal ruthless cruel project of dispossesion, annihilation, dehumanization and ERASURE of the local people in Palestine - is many many orders of magnitude greater than the other way around. Some of it is detailed in this shocking documentary https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4 which i can confirm is 100% true based on my own personal experience)
This capacity mentioned above, to step out of one's bubble and hear/see the humanity of another before seeing a label (and the stories attached to the label), requires having CONTACT between the "sides" so that they may hear each other's stories and each other's pain, but this contact is prevented and denied becasue of the incredible dominance of the sectarian nationalist divisive ideology in both sides.
As someone who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' (but have already long ago seen through their inaccurate, distorting, corrupting, limiting, imprisoning, divisive, sectarian and God-denying nature, and so have shed these labels) I notice that what allows this ongoing horror to happen (not only today but for more than a century now) is that there is such a total SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION between the "sides" (this is one of the greatest successes of nationalism, to separate people) so that people from both "sides" have no full understanding of the life experience & trauma experience of those on the "other side".
From what I see, this total DISCONNECTION is exactly what allows people to cheer when "our hero fighters" (whom the other side calls invaders/dispossesors or terrorists) murder, torture, oppress, abuse, slaughter and bomb "them", because each side says "they are evil people who only want to harm us, take our land and kill us/kick us out", and each side has countless examples of actions by the other side that are supposed to "prove" the supposed rightness of their claim.
Each "side" is enclosed and contained within its own SECTARIAN BUBBLE and tells itself its own story, about its trauma and difficulties, and is completely unaware of the life experience and trauma of the "other side".
And so, when the other side reacts (in what it calls self-defense) then the first side interprets it as an attack (becasue of its DISCONNECTION from the stories and sense-making of the other side) and tells a story that "those people on the other side" are evil monsters who only want to harm our side for no reason
It's quite amazing how similar the story that each side tells itself to the story that the other side tells itself, it is practically the SAME STORY - we are the victims here who are only protecting ourselves from the aggression of those evil people over there who only want to harm us and hate us for no reason. We have no one to talk to and negotiate with, they are not human beings, they are sons of Satan who hate us from birth, who only want to destroy us and take our land and kick us out - each side speaks the exact same stories!!
And all this lack of understanding happens simply because there is NO CONTACT between the "sides". This is the tremendous success of nationalism/tribalism, there is a complete disconnection, so that I don't hear the story that the other side tells itself and how they make sense of things, I don't experience their life experience, I don't know anything about their pain, I don't realize how much the story they tell themselves is the same as the story I tell myself, and therefore there is no possibility of experiencing the HUMANITY (the fear, the search for security) that motivates the other, just as it motivates me, and therefore also indifference to the trauma that the other goes through at the hands of "our heroic fighters"
It seems to me that the main engine that drives all of this is that people in tje region (and especially Israelis) undergo a very deep conditioning/indoctrination from a very young age into a separative and SECTARIAN RELIGIOUS-NATIONALIST IDENTITY and learn to believe (contrary to what reality shows) that this separate and divisive identity is what will provide them with protection and security, even though it does THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!
This indoctrination into the separative exclucivist religious-nationalist identity is much more than just mental brainwashing, but it is mainly the conditioning the of the nervous system and emotional system into IDENTIFICATION with a nationalist-religious label (this label equals me. This is me, This label is where my safety & security is to be found), which causes the emotions and the body to react very strongly to anything that they teach me is at odds with this identity.
Strong reaction that comes from the fact that the body/brain/nervous system has been conditioned to learn - through constant repetition in the first years of life (when the personality is formed), again and again and again, and without questioning - this is who I am, that I am this national-religious identity, therefore anything that questions or does not align with or appears to be at odds with this national-religious system of ideas is immediately perceived as a threat to my very existence, because I am this identity/the nationalist-religious label, this is me, and the people over there who do not carry this sacred label are my enemies, a threat to my existence..
It seems to me that those who have fallen into the abyss of sectarianism/tribalism/nationalism (and especially those whose tribalism also involves divisive, excluding, supremacist and God-denying sectarian religious beliefs) have been conditioned to believe that their saftey & security will be found through group exclusion and a sense of separation from the rest of humanity (a feeling that is so deeply imprinted in those who believe that the label of "Jewish" is who they actually are), that security will be found through an attempt to ensure the safety of ONLY one group of people, only those who were born into the "correct" religious-national label (and anyone who was not born into the correct national-religious label can go to hell. She matters a little but not nearly as much as the Chosen People, the most valuable and important people in the universe). It sounds ridiculous, but this is a VERY common & mainstream worldview in the extremely nationalist, ethnocentric, fascistic & exclucivist Israeli society, and it plays a huge part in what brought about this conflict in the first place, since the very early days of sectarian exclucivist zionist nationalism, and its arrival in the middle east from (mostly) eastern Europe.
To me, this is precisely the blindness of the sectarian nationalist-religious identity: trying to create security ONLY for one group, only for a part of the whole (through division, exclusion, separation from the whole and working to secure the narrow interests of only one nationalist-religious identity), such an attempt - of trying to create security ONLY for the part and ignore what this does to the whole - such an attempt can NEVER ever lead to real security but exactly the opposite - this is the number one factor that creates constant conflict and INSECURITY!!!
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT THE WHOLE, ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY!!!
To me it is absolutely clear that it is the number one cause of human division, separation, antagonism, hatred, conflict, violence, murder and war..
IMHO, the bloodshed can never stop and there will never be security for anyone unless we have the courage to step out of our sectarian bubble and actually listen and truly understand the profound trauma we inflict (this is true for both sides but especially so for Israelis who, in my experience, are incredibly brainwashed and ignorant of the UNSPEAKABLE HORROR CRUELTY INHUMANITY AND TRAUMA that supremacist right-wing zionist immigrants inflicted and inflict on the local native people.
Without feeling the pain endured and understanding what palestinians are actually reacting to, indoctrinated supremacist zionists will just continue with the dispossession, cruelty, pushing out and erasure of the native people, and keep telling themselves 'they are hostile to us for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemite monsters by nature..'
Miriam, I really don't know what kind of alternate universe you are inhabiting and what kind of echo-chamber you are locked inside but you clearly don't have the slightest clue what is happening in Palestine and Israel. There is no one on this planet more divorced from God and more denying of God than the mass-murdering child-abusing baby-burning right-wing supremacist savage Godless zionist terrorists!!! These God-denying love-less supremacist baboons are committing a GENOCIDE!!! Do you understand Miriam!?!? You'd have to be indoctrinated in the extreme to think that these savage mass-murdering right-wing nazi zionist terrorists believe that everyone is divine and equal part of God!!!! These stupid supremacist Godless zionist savage murderers act according to the EXACT OPPOSITE belief! Believe that those given the label 'Jew' at birth have supreme value above everyone else and that this gives them the "divine" right to disposses eliminate throw-out attack murder torture abuse and genocide the local people of Palestine. They are currently murderimg a child every 3 minutes on average (but it doesn't matter becasue that child doesn't carry the label "Jew" so their life means nothing for the nazi Godless zionists). DO YOU UNDERSTADN THAT, MIRIAM!?!? These vile mass-murderers and child-abusers do NOT see the divine in everyone, Miriam!! They invoke their fake sectarian nationalist "god" (that their immature frightened violent brain invented for themselves) to justify the Holocaust that they are perpetratimg against the local people of Palestine!!
Do you think these idiot Godless nazi murderers actually view everyone as divine light? We'd be living in paradise if they did. They clearly view life the exact opposite of that. There is no one on this planet more divorced from God and more denying of God than the mass-murdering child-abusing baby-burning right-wing supremacist savage Godless zionist terrorists!!!
(The first comment by 'HeadAndHeart', from November 10) I lay out exactly what brings about insecurity for jews and everyone else and lay out exactly how can security safety and prosperity for jews and everyone else be acheived!!! I wrote that comment becasue i love my precious jewish, muslim, christian and non-religious brothers and sisters in israel and palestine and I want us all to live in safety so that our highest potential can be expressed, and I can't stand seeing our lives being ruined by psychologocallly-undeveloped dumb right-wing supremacist neo-nazi baboons, who thump their chest and scream "those who given at birth a certain nationalist-religious label are more valuable and important than anyome else, and that gives me the right to murder destroy steal torture abuse humiliate throw-out expel spit on and eliminate other people who weren't given at birth this same label" DUMB GODLESS RIGHT-WING SUPREMACIST FOOLS!!! I wrote that comment becasue i can't stand seeing the most dumb immature and undeveloped members of society (who have no clue what love is and what God is, who know only how to do things through violence and forcing and trauma and murderinng and abusing- stupid zionist supremacist nazis) I can't stand seeing these idiot undeveloped Godless tribalist fools destroying the lives of my precious brothers and sisters in israel and palestine and creating for all of us INSECURITY, AND HELL ON EARTH.
Stupid infantile God-forgetting tribalistic supremacy can NEVER EVER bring about security. NEVER!!!
Look around you, this is what the world looks like when right-wing nationalist-religious supremacist baboons run the show. That's the only solution that the Godless right-wing supremacist baboons have to offer humanity - "Murder them. Traumatize them. Kill them. Hurt them. Exterminate them. They are evil. We are good" That is the only thing that idiotic infantile right-wimg supremacist Godless zionist ideogy has to offer humanity. ETERNAL TRAUMA. ETERNAL WAR. ETERNAL HATRED. ETERNAL DIVISION. ETERNAL "IT'S EITHER US OR THEM". That is the only "solution" that the neo-nazi supremacist love-denying anti-God right-wing baboons have to offer us. STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!).
If you had read my comment there then you'd be ashamed of this awful ignorant reply (assuming you're an actual real human being and not just a paid zionist operative like thousands of others, who respond with ready-made infantile scripts 'you hate jews, you love terrorists' like robots), you'd be ashamed becasue in your comment you LITERALLY illustrate word for word EXACTLY the dysfunctional sectarian tribalistic perspective that I explained in that comment in great detail (please read it). The perspective of people locked inside their own tribalistic bubble, telling themselves the story about their own pain and trauma (and what a victim they are to those "evil monster aggressors over there") and completely unaware of the profound trauma and pain and life experience inflicted on "the other side" at the hands of "our heroic fighters".
If I wanted to give an example to illustrate what it looks like to talk and write from within this unaware, short-sighted and profoundly ignorant sectarian bubble then I couldn't have given a better example than your comment!!!
Your comment is the perfect illustration of the profound lack of awareness, one-sided ignorance and blindness created by being locked inside a one-sided sectarian tribalistic bubble.
If reading my comment there doesn't give you pause for thought and doesn't make you look in the mirror in understanding of the kind of profound dysfunction that you've been unwittingly subscribing to, sectarian dysfunction that creates INSECURITY for jews and everyone else, if it doesn't give you a profound pause for thought and contemplation, then I can only conclude that I'm either dealing with a paid zionist operatives or with someone who has fallen so deeply into the abyss of God-denying lovelss right-wing tribalistic sectarian nationaloatoc-religious indoctrination that their heart and brain is poisoned and corrupted beyond repair and that they cannot view anything other than through the life-destroying sectarian tribalistic prism of "it's either us or them" amd "you're either with our side or you're the enemy" and "the only life possible is one group dominating and crushing another, so it's better we do this to them before they do it to us".
To be honest, I have little hope that you have the capacity for true listening and revolutionary reflection and stepping out of the tribalistic prism (you have shown none of this capacity so far, but exactly the opposite), but still, i implore you to read that comment, in case there is even just a shred of humanity left in you and in case the right-wing sectarian supremacist tribalists haven't completely corrupted your heart and poisoned your brain with their God-denying sectarian supremacist nationist-religious tribalistic poison ideology.
By the way, i hope you are intelligent enough to understand by now that I am NOT advocating for any "side" (this taking sides and the blindness and inhumanity that follows from it, is precisely the root of the dysfunction that ensures INSECURITY for everyone. Seeking sectarian security - security only for me and my group, only for the part and not the whole - does NOT bring security but exactly the opposite, this is precisely the very cause of INSECURITY), so I am not taking any side but because i am interacting right now with a deeply brainwashed one-sided and unaware tribalist, who is clearly aware of only half the story, then in this specific case, even though i am not taking sides, i think it is my duty to bring into awareness (to those who are locked inside a one-sided tribalistic bubble) that the trauma that the savage zionist terrorist and supremacist regime of Godless fools has inflicted and inflicts on the local people in Paleatine is many many orders of magnitude greater than the trauma that the local people inflicted on the supremacist and murderous zionist invaders/immigrants/colonizers (in the local people's struggle to survive against the ruthless century-long zionist supremacist project to disposses, eliminate, dehumanize and erase the local people in Palestine in order to make way for the superior chosen people (those given at birth the label 'Jew', which makes them apparently much much more important than those not given this label, in the eyes of racist idiot Godless right-wing sectarian zionist baboons).
The FACT that the trauma that the barbarian zionist terrorist and supremacist regime has inflicted on the local people of the land is many MANY orders of magnitude greater than the trauma that the locals inflicted on zionists (in their resistence to the zionist dispossesion project), this fact is something that supremacist zionists have no clue about because they live hermatically enclosed inside a one-sided sectarian tribalistic bubble where they hear only one story hammered into their head nonstop (and therefore gullibly believe that history started on the 7th of October and that everything was fine and dandy before that, and that there is nothing for "those evil monster palestinians" to be upset about, nothing wrong was done to them, they simply hate jews for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemites by nature". That's the infantile story that those locked inside the one-sided sectarian tribalistic supremacist bubble actually believe to be real!!
It's impossible to describe here in this limited space the entire century-long zionist supremacist project to eliminate, dehumanize, disposses and erase the local people of Palestine, but at least the most recent part of the dispossesion and elimination project can be seen here (please do watch this video, it is very very important) - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4
I find rants like this, which I cannot even enter the discussion, fascinating, and especially when I am forced to say things that more than impute the US government support of Israel at all cost, which is 106 million for tank ammunition needed by the Israeli army. As well, the US ambassador to the UN vetoed the Article 99 call for a ceasefire. We certainly must be at a very timely moment in Earth evolution, and especially if Putin and Netanyahu get to meet over it all. It is obvious that Israel cares nothing about Hanukkah, and its evil agent, America, which is supposedly Christian. Yet, it is the people of this world that matter. We are not pawns to the whims of the evildoers. We have respect and dignity, and a moral value that expresses what it truly means to be human. The world is united in togetherness, even as this illusion of the divine wrath is being perpetrated.
I am one of the multitudes that believes that Christ entered Earth evolution for the reason of redemption, salvation, and resurrection, and He paid the price as Savior for the Human Race.
I would hope that this can get sorted out because it is always good when two heads and hearts can make sense of what is going on in a seemingly "impossible to comprehend situation". I think of the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which proposed a Jewish homeland after WWI. At that time, it was Palestinian Muslims living under Ottoman (Turkish) rule, and very few Jewish people living in the Promised Land. Yet, it seems that the use and abuse of the Diaspora Jewish population of Europe was seen as having an even bigger consequence later, with World War II, and its genocide. By then, the 1948 resolution of a Jewish (Zionist) homeland seemed only natural after all the suffering in Europe. The key is the failure to implement the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Everything would be different today.
Recent news is that the US veto of the UN call for a ceasefire under Article 99 conditions, has been overturned by the US State Department, which is ordering immediate supply of ammunition to Israel. Who supports what here? The Zionist billionaires rule America? Miriam seems to wonder about a kind of "chat-gpt", and I do too. You say, I am not Kevin. Well, don't you think we need to talk about Kevin?
I read your stuff, Kevin because I like to understand both sides of the issues. I'm nauseated by you. You call the Hamas terrorists "noble and chivalrous fighters". So noble to hide in civilian clothes and use the people that elected you as human sheilds, not build bomb shelters for your people, but weapons depots in tunnels under hospitals! You call the Israeli hostages "prisoners". How can a baby be a prisoner? A baby?! A nine year old in wheelchair? Prisoners. In your own words. As for your other literature, the arguments exonerating radical islamists from wrong doing are weak, weak, weak. You've obviously done much mental gymnastics to makes zionists the big bogeyman. Your end game sounds real peaceful, Kevin. Mazel tov. I'm sure, women, children, homosexuals, jews, christians, druze, zoroastrians, beduins, and peaceful arabs are treated great by the "freedom fighters" you love so. Yes, the Syrian Civil War has taught us as much. Smdh
I'm sorry but you're confusing me with someome elae. My name is not Kevin and I didn't write any of the words that you're attributing to me here. I don't know who is this Kevin but you clearly didn't read anything of what I ACTUALLY wrote to you. Your reply has no relation whatsoever to what I wrote to you. You seem to be very confused. If you have an interest to engage with me then I invite you to read what I actually wrote to you. Be well.
I'm sorry if I confused you with Kevin, but perhaps we should talk about Kevin because you give credence and assent to his words. He is quoted in Dr. John's article that you referred me to and being new to the substack format, it was looking like that was the "first comment". The John Spritzler article that you posted is extremely weak on defending terrorists and Islamic extremists (see #2, not much to chew on, but there's predictably an insane 911 conspiracy linked there), but he does defend terrorists outright, as do you, handandheart, by proxy of the Norman Finkelstein-esque, 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' fan fiction that you so fervently write and promote. The anti-zionists are a community where the alt-right, the ultra left, and jihadists converge with identical revisionist history and rhetoric. Very strange bedfellows! In antisemitic circles, throughout time the "chosen people" concept has been used and misinterpreted to attack and humiliate Jewish people https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-quot-chosen-people-quot. The pilar of Judaism, that the jew haters want to ignore or are willfully ignorant of, is that every single human being (friends, enemies, jews, palestinians, EVERYONE) has a soul and every soul has a unique altruistic purpose to serve in this world. In short, jews acknowledge the inherent value of every single person and our interconnectedness because you and I are sparks of the divine. You can learn more about this concept here (amazing podcast series): https://open.spotify.com/episode/4zytTbmoXP7LB6iLSzKmTs?si=G-pXf6xWT5-7Mwz-mqNIIg
In the spirit of Hannukah, a holiday all about fighting religious persecution and bringing in miracles and light during dark times, every soul shall eventually shine their divine light and drive out this darkness that plagues our world.
Second reply (please see first one above from a few minutes ago). I know that you have a hard time finding the comment I mentioned above, so i thought i'd paste it for you here:
it seems to me (as someome who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' & 'Israeli') that the path forward out of this horror is not strictly in political arrangemnts (that's also important but secondary) but rather it lies in the heart of people, in the ability/capacity to see the humanity of another before viewing them as a label (palestinian, israeli, muslim, jew), as well as in coming to terms with and acknowledging the IMMENSE AND PROFOUND TRAUMA that each "side" has caused the other and in finding ways to heal together.
(and before I proceed I'd just like to say that unlike most Jews, I'm fully aware and acknowledge that the trauma that supremacist zionists caused the local people over the last century - in their brutal ruthless cruel project of dispossesion, annihilation, dehumanization and ERASURE of the local people in Palestine - is many many orders of magnitude greater than the other way around. Some of it is detailed in this shocking documentary https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4 which i can confirm is 100% true based on my own personal experience)
This capacity mentioned above, to step out of one's bubble and hear/see the humanity of another before seeing a label (and the stories attached to the label), requires having CONTACT between the "sides" so that they may hear each other's stories and each other's pain, but this contact is prevented and denied becasue of the incredible dominance of the sectarian nationalist divisive ideology in both sides.
As someone who was given at birth the label 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' (but have already long ago seen through their inaccurate, distorting, corrupting, limiting, imprisoning, divisive, sectarian and God-denying nature, and so have shed these labels) I notice that what allows this ongoing horror to happen (not only today but for more than a century now) is that there is such a total SEPARATION AND DISCONNECTION between the "sides" (this is one of the greatest successes of nationalism, to separate people) so that people from both "sides" have no full understanding of the life experience & trauma experience of those on the "other side".
From what I see, this total DISCONNECTION is exactly what allows people to cheer when "our hero fighters" (whom the other side calls invaders/dispossesors or terrorists) murder, torture, oppress, abuse, slaughter and bomb "them", because each side says "they are evil people who only want to harm us, take our land and kill us/kick us out", and each side has countless examples of actions by the other side that are supposed to "prove" the supposed rightness of their claim.
Each "side" is enclosed and contained within its own SECTARIAN BUBBLE and tells itself its own story, about its trauma and difficulties, and is completely unaware of the life experience and trauma of the "other side".
And so, when the other side reacts (in what it calls self-defense) then the first side interprets it as an attack (becasue of its DISCONNECTION from the stories and sense-making of the other side) and tells a story that "those people on the other side" are evil monsters who only want to harm our side for no reason
It's quite amazing how similar the story that each side tells itself to the story that the other side tells itself, it is practically the SAME STORY - we are the victims here who are only protecting ourselves from the aggression of those evil people over there who only want to harm us and hate us for no reason. We have no one to talk to and negotiate with, they are not human beings, they are sons of Satan who hate us from birth, who only want to destroy us and take our land and kick us out - each side speaks the exact same stories!!
And all this lack of understanding happens simply because there is NO CONTACT between the "sides". This is the tremendous success of nationalism/tribalism, there is a complete disconnection, so that I don't hear the story that the other side tells itself and how they make sense of things, I don't experience their life experience, I don't know anything about their pain, I don't realize how much the story they tell themselves is the same as the story I tell myself, and therefore there is no possibility of experiencing the HUMANITY (the fear, the search for security) that motivates the other, just as it motivates me, and therefore also indifference to the trauma that the other goes through at the hands of "our heroic fighters"
It seems to me that the main engine that drives all of this is that people in tje region (and especially Israelis) undergo a very deep conditioning/indoctrination from a very young age into a separative and SECTARIAN RELIGIOUS-NATIONALIST IDENTITY and learn to believe (contrary to what reality shows) that this separate and divisive identity is what will provide them with protection and security, even though it does THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!
This indoctrination into the separative exclucivist religious-nationalist identity is much more than just mental brainwashing, but it is mainly the conditioning the of the nervous system and emotional system into IDENTIFICATION with a nationalist-religious label (this label equals me. This is me, This label is where my safety & security is to be found), which causes the emotions and the body to react very strongly to anything that they teach me is at odds with this identity.
Strong reaction that comes from the fact that the body/brain/nervous system has been conditioned to learn - through constant repetition in the first years of life (when the personality is formed), again and again and again, and without questioning - this is who I am, that I am this national-religious identity, therefore anything that questions or does not align with or appears to be at odds with this national-religious system of ideas is immediately perceived as a threat to my very existence, because I am this identity/the nationalist-religious label, this is me, and the people over there who do not carry this sacred label are my enemies, a threat to my existence..
It seems to me that those who have fallen into the abyss of sectarianism/tribalism/nationalism (and especially those whose tribalism also involves divisive, excluding, supremacist and God-denying sectarian religious beliefs) have been conditioned to believe that their saftey & security will be found through group exclusion and a sense of separation from the rest of humanity (a feeling that is so deeply imprinted in those who believe that the label of "Jewish" is who they actually are), that security will be found through an attempt to ensure the safety of ONLY one group of people, only those who were born into the "correct" religious-national label (and anyone who was not born into the correct national-religious label can go to hell. She matters a little but not nearly as much as the Chosen People, the most valuable and important people in the universe). It sounds ridiculous, but this is a VERY common & mainstream worldview in the extremely nationalist, ethnocentric, fascistic & exclucivist Israeli society, and it plays a huge part in what brought about this conflict in the first place, since the very early days of sectarian exclucivist zionist nationalism, and its arrival in the middle east from (mostly) eastern Europe.
To me, this is precisely the blindness of the sectarian nationalist-religious identity: trying to create security ONLY for one group, only for a part of the whole (through division, exclusion, separation from the whole and working to secure the narrow interests of only one nationalist-religious identity), such an attempt - of trying to create security ONLY for the part and ignore what this does to the whole - such an attempt can NEVER ever lead to real security but exactly the opposite - this is the number one factor that creates constant conflict and INSECURITY!!!
TRYING TO CREATE SECTARIAN SECURITY (SECURITY ONLY FOR THE PART AND NOT THE WHOLE, ONLY FOR ME AND MY GROUP) IS THE VERY CAUSE OF INSECURITY!!!
In my understanding, tribalism/nationalism and sectarian divisive exoteric religion (which is the POLAR OPPOSITE of what God/Consciousness actually is) is the great disease and blindness of humanity. Is the most destructive and deadly invention that humans have ever invented (not because we are bad, but because we have not psychologically matured yet, and are still blind, and in our naiveté we believed that this is how we will find safety & security, without understanding what we are doing, without realizing that we are actually creating constant INSECURITY when we search for security through the sectarian divisive nationalist-religious identity, when we seek security only for the part and not for the whole).
To me it is absolutely clear that it is the number one cause of human division, separation, antagonism, hatred, conflict, violence, murder and war..
IMHO, the bloodshed can never stop and there will never be security for anyone unless we have the courage to step out of our sectarian bubble and actually listen and truly understand the profound trauma we inflict (this is true for both sides but especially so for Israelis who, in my experience, are incredibly brainwashed and ignorant of the UNSPEAKABLE HORROR CRUELTY INHUMANITY AND TRAUMA that supremacist right-wing zionist immigrants inflicted and inflict on the local native people.
Without feeling the pain endured and understanding what palestinians are actually reacting to, indoctrinated supremacist zionists will just continue with the dispossession, cruelty, pushing out and erasure of the native people, and keep telling themselves 'they are hostile to us for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemite monsters by nature..'
https://oneworldrenaissance.com/2021/01/23/holism-fragmentation-and-our-endangered-future-a-new-vision-and-a-new-hope/
Miriam, I really don't know what kind of alternate universe you are inhabiting and what kind of echo-chamber you are locked inside but you clearly don't have the slightest clue what is happening in Palestine and Israel. There is no one on this planet more divorced from God and more denying of God than the mass-murdering child-abusing baby-burning right-wing supremacist savage Godless zionist terrorists!!! These God-denying love-less supremacist baboons are committing a GENOCIDE!!! Do you understand Miriam!?!? You'd have to be indoctrinated in the extreme to think that these savage mass-murdering right-wing nazi zionist terrorists believe that everyone is divine and equal part of God!!!! These stupid supremacist Godless zionist savage murderers act according to the EXACT OPPOSITE belief! Believe that those given the label 'Jew' at birth have supreme value above everyone else and that this gives them the "divine" right to disposses eliminate throw-out attack murder torture abuse and genocide the local people of Palestine. They are currently murderimg a child every 3 minutes on average (but it doesn't matter becasue that child doesn't carry the label "Jew" so their life means nothing for the nazi Godless zionists). DO YOU UNDERSTADN THAT, MIRIAM!?!? These vile mass-murderers and child-abusers do NOT see the divine in everyone, Miriam!! They invoke their fake sectarian nationalist "god" (that their immature frightened violent brain invented for themselves) to justify the Holocaust that they are perpetratimg against the local people of Palestine!!
Do you think these idiot Godless nazi murderers actually view everyone as divine light? We'd be living in paradise if they did. They clearly view life the exact opposite of that. There is no one on this planet more divorced from God and more denying of God than the mass-murdering child-abusing baby-burning right-wing supremacist savage Godless zionist terrorists!!!
Now, in the 1st comment here https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/future-history/comments
(The first comment by 'HeadAndHeart', from November 10) I lay out exactly what brings about insecurity for jews and everyone else and lay out exactly how can security safety and prosperity for jews and everyone else be acheived!!! I wrote that comment becasue i love my precious jewish, muslim, christian and non-religious brothers and sisters in israel and palestine and I want us all to live in safety so that our highest potential can be expressed, and I can't stand seeing our lives being ruined by psychologocallly-undeveloped dumb right-wing supremacist neo-nazi baboons, who thump their chest and scream "those who given at birth a certain nationalist-religious label are more valuable and important than anyome else, and that gives me the right to murder destroy steal torture abuse humiliate throw-out expel spit on and eliminate other people who weren't given at birth this same label" DUMB GODLESS RIGHT-WING SUPREMACIST FOOLS!!! I wrote that comment becasue i can't stand seeing the most dumb immature and undeveloped members of society (who have no clue what love is and what God is, who know only how to do things through violence and forcing and trauma and murderinng and abusing- stupid zionist supremacist nazis) I can't stand seeing these idiot undeveloped Godless tribalist fools destroying the lives of my precious brothers and sisters in israel and palestine and creating for all of us INSECURITY, AND HELL ON EARTH.
Stupid infantile God-forgetting tribalistic supremacy can NEVER EVER bring about security. NEVER!!!
Look around you, this is what the world looks like when right-wing nationalist-religious supremacist baboons run the show. That's the only solution that the Godless right-wing supremacist baboons have to offer humanity - "Murder them. Traumatize them. Kill them. Hurt them. Exterminate them. They are evil. We are good" That is the only thing that idiotic infantile right-wimg supremacist Godless zionist ideogy has to offer humanity. ETERNAL TRAUMA. ETERNAL WAR. ETERNAL HATRED. ETERNAL DIVISION. ETERNAL "IT'S EITHER US OR THEM". That is the only "solution" that the neo-nazi supremacist love-denying anti-God right-wing baboons have to offer us. STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!).
If you had read my comment there then you'd be ashamed of this awful ignorant reply (assuming you're an actual real human being and not just a paid zionist operative like thousands of others, who respond with ready-made infantile scripts 'you hate jews, you love terrorists' like robots), you'd be ashamed becasue in your comment you LITERALLY illustrate word for word EXACTLY the dysfunctional sectarian tribalistic perspective that I explained in that comment in great detail (please read it). The perspective of people locked inside their own tribalistic bubble, telling themselves the story about their own pain and trauma (and what a victim they are to those "evil monster aggressors over there") and completely unaware of the profound trauma and pain and life experience inflicted on "the other side" at the hands of "our heroic fighters".
If I wanted to give an example to illustrate what it looks like to talk and write from within this unaware, short-sighted and profoundly ignorant sectarian bubble then I couldn't have given a better example than your comment!!!
Your comment is the perfect illustration of the profound lack of awareness, one-sided ignorance and blindness created by being locked inside a one-sided sectarian tribalistic bubble.
If reading my comment there doesn't give you pause for thought and doesn't make you look in the mirror in understanding of the kind of profound dysfunction that you've been unwittingly subscribing to, sectarian dysfunction that creates INSECURITY for jews and everyone else, if it doesn't give you a profound pause for thought and contemplation, then I can only conclude that I'm either dealing with a paid zionist operatives or with someone who has fallen so deeply into the abyss of God-denying lovelss right-wing tribalistic sectarian nationaloatoc-religious indoctrination that their heart and brain is poisoned and corrupted beyond repair and that they cannot view anything other than through the life-destroying sectarian tribalistic prism of "it's either us or them" amd "you're either with our side or you're the enemy" and "the only life possible is one group dominating and crushing another, so it's better we do this to them before they do it to us".
To be honest, I have little hope that you have the capacity for true listening and revolutionary reflection and stepping out of the tribalistic prism (you have shown none of this capacity so far, but exactly the opposite), but still, i implore you to read that comment, in case there is even just a shred of humanity left in you and in case the right-wing sectarian supremacist tribalists haven't completely corrupted your heart and poisoned your brain with their God-denying sectarian supremacist nationist-religious tribalistic poison ideology.
By the way, i hope you are intelligent enough to understand by now that I am NOT advocating for any "side" (this taking sides and the blindness and inhumanity that follows from it, is precisely the root of the dysfunction that ensures INSECURITY for everyone. Seeking sectarian security - security only for me and my group, only for the part and not the whole - does NOT bring security but exactly the opposite, this is precisely the very cause of INSECURITY), so I am not taking any side but because i am interacting right now with a deeply brainwashed one-sided and unaware tribalist, who is clearly aware of only half the story, then in this specific case, even though i am not taking sides, i think it is my duty to bring into awareness (to those who are locked inside a one-sided tribalistic bubble) that the trauma that the savage zionist terrorist and supremacist regime of Godless fools has inflicted and inflicts on the local people in Paleatine is many many orders of magnitude greater than the trauma that the local people inflicted on the supremacist and murderous zionist invaders/immigrants/colonizers (in the local people's struggle to survive against the ruthless century-long zionist supremacist project to disposses, eliminate, dehumanize and erase the local people in Palestine in order to make way for the superior chosen people (those given at birth the label 'Jew', which makes them apparently much much more important than those not given this label, in the eyes of racist idiot Godless right-wing sectarian zionist baboons).
The FACT that the trauma that the barbarian zionist terrorist and supremacist regime has inflicted on the local people of the land is many MANY orders of magnitude greater than the trauma that the locals inflicted on zionists (in their resistence to the zionist dispossesion project), this fact is something that supremacist zionists have no clue about because they live hermatically enclosed inside a one-sided sectarian tribalistic bubble where they hear only one story hammered into their head nonstop (and therefore gullibly believe that history started on the 7th of October and that everything was fine and dandy before that, and that there is nothing for "those evil monster palestinians" to be upset about, nothing wrong was done to them, they simply hate jews for no reason, simply becasue they are evil antisemites by nature". That's the infantile story that those locked inside the one-sided sectarian tribalistic supremacist bubble actually believe to be real!!
It's impossible to describe here in this limited space the entire century-long zionist supremacist project to eliminate, dehumanize, disposses and erase the local people of Palestine, but at least the most recent part of the dispossesion and elimination project can be seen here (please do watch this video, it is very very important) - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4
I find rants like this, which I cannot even enter the discussion, fascinating, and especially when I am forced to say things that more than impute the US government support of Israel at all cost, which is 106 million for tank ammunition needed by the Israeli army. As well, the US ambassador to the UN vetoed the Article 99 call for a ceasefire. We certainly must be at a very timely moment in Earth evolution, and especially if Putin and Netanyahu get to meet over it all. It is obvious that Israel cares nothing about Hanukkah, and its evil agent, America, which is supposedly Christian. Yet, it is the people of this world that matter. We are not pawns to the whims of the evildoers. We have respect and dignity, and a moral value that expresses what it truly means to be human. The world is united in togetherness, even as this illusion of the divine wrath is being perpetrated.
I am one of the multitudes that believes that Christ entered Earth evolution for the reason of redemption, salvation, and resurrection, and He paid the price as Savior for the Human Race.
I would hope that this can get sorted out because it is always good when two heads and hearts can make sense of what is going on in a seemingly "impossible to comprehend situation". I think of the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which proposed a Jewish homeland after WWI. At that time, it was Palestinian Muslims living under Ottoman (Turkish) rule, and very few Jewish people living in the Promised Land. Yet, it seems that the use and abuse of the Diaspora Jewish population of Europe was seen as having an even bigger consequence later, with World War II, and its genocide. By then, the 1948 resolution of a Jewish (Zionist) homeland seemed only natural after all the suffering in Europe. The key is the failure to implement the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Everything would be different today.
Recent news is that the US veto of the UN call for a ceasefire under Article 99 conditions, has been overturned by the US State Department, which is ordering immediate supply of ammunition to Israel. Who supports what here? The Zionist billionaires rule America? Miriam seems to wonder about a kind of "chat-gpt", and I do too. You say, I am not Kevin. Well, don't you think we need to talk about Kevin?