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Nov 3, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

They are not asking for forgiveness, they are asking that everyone forgets. In fact, the last thing they want is forgiveness. That would require that they admit they made a mistake in the first place.

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Damage control requires that they admit that mistakes were made. They'll have no problem admitting that they made mistakes when the reality is that they weren't making any mistakes at all. They knew exactly what they were doing.

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There are two co-conspirators here. There are the henchmen and their underlings, who knew/know exactly what they are doing. There are also the compliant masses who made the mistake of following them, and condemning those that did not. Neither group is asking for forgiveness, and neither will admit error.

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Indeed, the former is the "wholesale sin", and the latter is the "retail sin".

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Never thought of it that way. Maybe one can be seen as the “manufacture” and the other the “consumer”. Ultimately, the blame rests on the consumers. They can always refuse to “buy” the product…

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Nov 24, 2022·edited Nov 24, 2022

Not if they are totally programmed....just sayin'...North Americans have been drinking the koolaid for so long now. I am in Canada--dual citizen from the states--and it is just as bad if not worse here (polite Canadians and all).

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Yes, but the Kool-Aid drinking is wilful. No one put a gun to their heads for them to start drinking. They deliberately chose the path of least resistance….

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Yes, the entire affair was years in the planning. We're not looking at mistakes and poor decisions here, we're looking at crimes intentionally executed.

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Nurses give Remdesivir because they’ve been told to. They call it ‘Run death is near’ behind patients backs. Explain to me how this is not murder? They know it is killing people and they do it anyway. This is the Milgram Experiment in real life.

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Yes. I had a personal friend who (supposedly) caught the cooties and was Remdesivered to death.

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Yes, and the people who wrote those death orders for our friends and family understood Milgram well; they knew these doctors and nurses would do as they were told.

Obedience to evil instructions is humanity's greatest fault. We are MUCH too easily conditioned!

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Yes exactly. And here in Canada they are still pushing the V, saying people should wear masks, and are afraid to even speak about the damage done.

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I'm fortunate to live in an area where the government didn't buy into the sickness kabuki. There were no government mandates. However, the corporate influence was severe. The big box stores all have arrows directing people where to walk and almost constant psa announcements instructing people to exercise social distancing guidelines, wear masks, cough into your elbow, etc. I think some people mindlessly carried out these instructions, but most people simply ignored them. There doesn't seem to be much they can do when the vast majority can't take them seriously.

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"Sickness kabuki"! LOL

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Indeed, it is kabuki theater. "Masked carnival" also works too, to quote The Daily Sceptic back in 2020.

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Where do you live?

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I live on what is known as "The Nature Coast" of Florida about an hour north of Tampa

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Florida has been a beacon of sanity in an insane world. Along with South Dakota and some other states, as well as Sweden, Belarus, Nicaragua, and Tanzania.

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I would have said that Sweden has been a beacon, but OMG, just got this email from the WIN WIN Gothenburg Sustainability Award Committee, and I find it so upsetting:

The international collective of investigative journalists, Bellingcat, and its founder Eliot Higgins, receive the WIN WIN Award 2023! Abbie Richards, disinformation researcher and social media educator, receive the WIN WIN Youth Award 2023!

After reviewing over three hundred nominations, the juries selected five finalists for each prestigious award. Now, we can present the winners of 2023. With their initiatives, they effectively debunk ongoing disinformation campaigns, disseminate knowledge about current global issues and strengthen the common resilience against harmful misinformation.

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Despite facing challenging circumstances, they have persisted in their pursuit.

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Bellingcat stands out as one of the most innovative practitioners of open-source intelligence and online journalism in the world. They have taken on the challenge of fighting disinformation, improving democratic discourse, and inspiring change that facilitates progress towards the UN Sustainable Goals 2030.

Bellingcat is an independent international collective of researchers, investigators, and citizen journalists that utilises open-source and social media investigation to uncover the truth about crimes against humanity and conflicts worldwide. Their efforts have included revealing the true stories of the missiles that downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in Ukraine and the chemical weapons used by the Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, identifying neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, exposing Kremlin hit teams, and finding ISIS supporters in Europe.

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I moved to Florida twelve years ago because they were practically giving houses away back then. I paid more for my car than my house. I stopped voting when I was in California, but after DeSantis got elected and started actually doing what he said he was going to do, I decided to vote for him.

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Yes. On my FB feed the government and private "health" agencies, and the manufacturers are still pushing the "vaccine", so no one should get the impression it's over. Where I live the local businesses are making the plexiglass barriers more permanent and robust. The foolishness continues.

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To paraphrase St. Ronnie of the Raygun: "Mr. Biden, tear down this plexiglass!"

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See also: memory-holing, Orwell.

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Exactly. When you know you have committed crimes it works out better for you if everyone simply forgets and moves forward. You never have to suffer negative consequences for the damage and harm your crimes caused.

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Precisely.

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Amen to that.

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Agreed, it's why they wanted have a consequences card, they get sued more than we will ever know.

I did not abide by any mandated jab, as I know my body better than them. A great immune system, and never get sick.

To have my adult kids made to for work, a grand child for school, then I lost my plot.

I still have not been sick and people I know that have jaBbed are getting con/ flu,

I didn't even get from them.

Be awake never woke.

I am not very nice if woke.

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Nov 3, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

Hi Charles, thanks always for your extremely thoughtful and insightful offerings to us all. I will add my two cents. While my husband and i bought the story for the first two shots and the booster also, before we woke up, what i will have a hard time forgetting (let's not worry about the forgiving part.), but forgetting...was how some of my loved ones treated me with hatred for siding with those who chose to not get the shot...for wanting to discuss why they had rights also. They not only treated me with hatred, and shut down any possible conversation other than their own views, but they expressed such vicious hatred towards the evil unvaccinated. They did not think they deserved medical care. They did not mind if these people died....i was horrified to see people i have loved my whole life reveal their hatred and venom...and with such sanctimony at that! That i cannot forget...this is a part of them that covid policies and divisions nourished..i think that any extreme conditions cause these attitudes to rise to the surface. Hitler did a good job of milking that. So, maybe i can forgive, but i will not forget that these particular people are capable of blind hatred.

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yes, it was sobering. And dismaying. I thought that our consciousness had moved beyond that. But at least now we have a clearer idea of where we stand, and what work needs to be done. This reflex of hatred and dehumanization is at the root of the madness. I am glad you woke up, and curious what it was that caused the awakening.

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when i saw how trudeau was treating the truckers in canada, i was simply appalled..and then their back accts were being frozen and gofundme took away those donations..i thought...something is up..i need to start learning more about all of this..and i sure did...i try to not grit my teeth with my own anger about it all..my husband is a retired physician and he is shocked at all that has happened in that community also.

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I was in a business meeting last week. We were looking at a possible JV on a very large development project. Politics of course came into the conversation and the other guy starting going off about misinformation, about climate change, and the crisis we are in because of Climageddon and so on. I was looking at him like he's an idiot, but I was somewhat 'whatever'. Then he said 'THOSE TRUCKERS! I wanted the military to go in and arrest them. They should all be doing hard time for years in jail.' Too much for me. I said 'Stop. I'm not doing any business with you. Ever.' I almost ordered him out of my office, but I wasn't the only party involved, I have a partner, so I got up and made myself some tea. I was furious. Which somewhat surprised me, as I have been fighting these issues for 2.5 years, nearly 3 now, and I thought I was past the anger part. I guess I'm not. He left shortly thereafter. I will never talk to him again, at least on purpose.

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Viewing all this from the USA, I can say that I not only lost all respect for Trudeau (or as I call him now, Castreau), but now I see that, by comparison America may not be quite as bad a country as I may have thought in the past. Sure, we have our problems. And there are a lot of things we can learn from other countries. But when it came to Covidian hysteria and tyranny, the USA (or at least parts of it) was one of the least-worst countries. Heck, some states made even Sweden look strict at times!

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Their system divides power. So a State can buck the Feds. In Canada our provinces can’t. Quebec can. The rest can’t.

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My wife has a friend, a senior citizen, zero public influence. ZERO. She donated a tiny amount to the truckers. It was either $20 or $50. This is a pensioner just scraping by. Her bank accounts were frozen.

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I have heard stories like this...we are living in very dangerous times

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As a staunch advocate of vaccines, I experience much hate, disdain, and frustration from Anti Vaxxers. An open mind is important, as is freedom of choice without vitriol. I am particularly concerned with the amount of unbridled anger expressed on the internet, the paranoia of conspiracy theories, and the polarization of our societies, both in Canada and in the USA. Note: I am a Canadian living on the west coast of British Columbia, and in this post and my other posts in this string I am referring to my lived experience.

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I think I speak for most of us when I say, we are not angry that some people chose to take the vaccines. We are angry that we were shamed, ostracized, excluded from public venues, lost jobs and licenses, and in some cases lost loved ones or our own health. We think it should be a personal choice. We also think that those who made the choice to get vaccinated were not made aware of the risks and benefits, because of shoddy and corrupt science.

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Any authority figure pushing it on children should be imprisoned. IMO. If Ron Taylor is in that camp, then he should expect anger. If he merely wants it for himself, then he shouldn’t have anger directed at him. However saying you’re a staunch advocate of vaccines is really illogical. That is the same as saying I’m a staunch advocate of restaurants. It’s a meaningless statement. Is it a good restaurant? Is it a good vaccine? Unless he is saying just because they use the word vaccine he’ll poke it in himself. And that would be absurd.

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Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me. If they want to jab themselves one thousand times, they can have at it. When were the jabbed discriminated against, were unable to travel or lost their jobs? We respect their autonomy, but we ask the same in return.

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You have hit the nail on the head!

I too used to be very pro-vax - until I saw how many jabs had been added to the kids' schedule, and how they were being pushed, and how the testing was being skimped, and so on.

Vaccines are indeed not all the same, nor are other pharmaceuticals, and each one needs to be tested & considered independently. With a great deal of scepticism, once you realise how much we have been scammed!

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I’m guessing Ron Taylor has openly insulted people who won’t take the vax. Perhaps calling them anti vax morons or some such thing. And then been dismayed people snarked back. I have yet to see anyone get angry at someone taking the vax who respects others right not to get it. Just a guess. And maybe he genuinely was attacked first. But I doubt it.

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On the same wavelength here. I wish the locals didn't have to be disturbed by the truckers' rally for their human rights, but I sure supported them and was deeply saddened when so many people didn't seem to get their indisputable (to me) point.

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As a woman's right to choose is a prime motivator in the coming election for many of my vaccinated and multi-boosted friends, I'm puzzled by their refusal to draw a connection between their ardent pro-choice stance and my choice not to get boosted. (I'm also pro-choice.) I took two hits "for the team" by getting the original Pfizer vaccines when I was hoodwinked into believing that the vaccines stopped Covid transmission. I was had. I won't be again. But I'm puzzled by and a bit miffed at all those who continue to do what they are told is the right thing now that we know the vaccines/boosters might hurt them and won't help anyone else. Our bodies, ourselves is a holistic concept.

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No joke! I too am stunned that the absolute necessity of "my body my choice" means zilch to virtually all who spent decades repeating it!

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Indeed, the hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife. It is a major disconnect.

I too am pro-choice, on both issues.

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You cannot call these Covid-19 injections standard vaccines. They are mRNA gene therapies made with pseudouridine encased in toxic Nano Lipid Particles that cross every single membrane in the human body, including the blood brain barrier and the placenta!

Can you comprehend the effects on the female reproductive system when these toxins bio-accumulate in the ovaries, and can possibly reverse transcribe into Human DNA??

Dear God people, please get this through your heads!!!!

These are NOT normal "vaccines" in any shape or form. They cause cardiac damage. Neurological damage. Reproductive Harms. Immune system disregulation.

Bizarre cancers IN THE YOUNG are exploding. As are cardiac arrests.

Please, please stop talking about this like any of it was remotely normal!

They took people's grandparents, zip tied them to their beds, forced lethal protocols on them, isolated them from their loved ones, and killed them.

They withheld, attacked, and destroyed safe and effective early treatment strategies and the doctors who employed them.

This is a coup d' etat on the Formerly Free World. We have had our businesses bankrupted, our parents murdered, and our children force injected to work or go to school.

These are the greatest crimes against Humanity in Human History.

They are quite possibly installing an operating system inside the human being as well as sterilizing a large portion of our population.

Wake Up!!

Read Vigano. Or Kennedy. Or ECENI on Substack. Or Whitney Webb. Or Catherine Austin Fitts or Dr. Mike Yeadon.

We must respond, now!!!

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Amen to that!

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Thank you for your heart-felt and also informative comments. We all need to be taking our own futures into our own hands. Thank you.

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charles, you have said this so well, and i neglected to acknowledge this aspect of your essay in my first comment. you and your loved ones have suffered greatly and very unjustly. the level of deception and outright lies that are coming to light are shocking. this colvid sure did expose the underbelly of all of our institutions. and as you well know, behind hatred is fear...fear was USED for political ends around the world, and huge profits for the few.

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Well-said. It is one thing to support vaccines, and quite another thing to force, coerce, deceive, and manipulate others into taking them.

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Hi Ron, don't you understand, we were not given 'freedom' of choice. You weren't. It was just lucky you believe in any and every vaccination, the whole industry of it. Can you open your mind enough to see that we were treated inhumanely and illegally? That human rights were trampled on? That there was real damage to many people from these genetic manipulating shots and that we were all lied to about the safety and efficacy they provided? Can you not see that? Please also consider that 'conspiracy theories' is an invalid term used by propagandists to shut down the possibility of debate and promulgate the polarisation of which you speak. If you censor an entire community of people expressing their right to think and speak as they find, you are not behaving fairly. Can you also see we might be angry about that? Ridicule us in your mind if you wish but have the decency to not be surprised about us. It would be an interesting exercise for you to go back and see all of the issues that were smeared by the propagandists (media, government et al) as 'conspiracies' and see how many of them are actually now accepted and known FACTS. Truth. Please mind your language, it is crucially important. Find your own words to describe what you are feeling. Have you actually talked to anyone who does not agree with what you are being fed as the status quo?

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I'm confused. Can you give me an example of the 'paranoia of conspiracy theories'? I haven't heard any 'conspiracy theories'. At least regarding vaccines. What would one be?

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Oh they are there. Particularly the "depopulation agenda". True or not, it definitely fits the category.

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hi ron, it's hard to experience that. can you give us an example of what was directed at you and for what reason?

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Same - just so sick when friends and family demonized me - that we unvaccinated were killers and deserved no healthcare because of it. We were and still are shunned. Some people still feel this way.

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One of the blessings of covid, though, was that we found out in a very painful way, who our real friends were...hard to learn..but that was there, latent, in them, all along.

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I agree and found that I've lost shallow friendships based on common interests and kept or gained ones built on common values. It's been such a time of revealing of character.

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And a time of richness in spite of the worst of it.

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Though I hear you, I believe there is a need for compassion. People were subjected to the most sophisticated psychological and governmental manipulation in history, intended to bring about just what you suffered.

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you can be compassionate towards a person who harms you, because of the many reasons a person becomes harmful to others. but it is wise to remember their capacity to be harmful and make decisions accordingly. i do not have to hate back. but i also do not need to deliberately invite negative energy into my space.

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Well said, that's it.

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It was how they responded to it. They became Nazis. Overnight.

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I got the same treatment when I said everyone gets to choose what goes in their bodies. Such hate. It was shocking.

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Isn't it unbelievable how much our so-called free countries and their peoples changed over this? Or their true colors came out? We are better off knowing the truth..always..and through all the hatred, i have found new and very loving friends, who i would never have known!

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Another matter but in essence the same:

Advice from a Ukrainan lady

https://youtu.be/o16WPbDv8mE?t=54

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Well, valid concerns regarding personal agency in western countries, but Russia is definitely not the place to look up to instead. You can expect to get banged up in Siberia for speaking your mind, and you will be under 100x greater surveillance there. You won't be getting away with Https or Tor over there. People are sometimes randomly put in prison just to make sure that they have enough fear of authority. West has its problems but Russia? Come on..

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Let's not forget that Joe Biden and many other members of government repeatedly groomed us to adopt those attitudes of hatred and venom based on faulty data and Pharmaganda. It was not a spontaneous phenomenon. Let's also not forget that our education system and many key players in society have schooled us with a memorize-and-regurgitate form of "education," and failed to enable us to think critically, leading us astray by not only failing to provide us with both sides of a story, but cleansing the news and social media of any dissent.

Biden and other so-called leaders have traumatized the citizenry with false data and lies, and have been gaslighting us by claiming to be "Uniters" while in fact acting to pit us against each other. Biden, soon after taking office, became both our Divider-in-Chief, and our Gaslighter-in-Chief; he claims to be acting in our best interests while at the same time accelerating inflation with reckless woke spending programs, creating energy instability in our country, and failing to protect the integrity of our borders and more. This is the quality of our leadership in a time of created crisis.

As criminal and traitorous as the behavior of many of our so-called leaders has been, including Biden, Fauci, Becerra (HHS), Wolensky (CDC) Woodcock/Califf (FDA) it is we the people who need to take responsibility for unlearning sheep-like behavior and learning how to first, discern truth and second, exercise judgment about who to trust. As V said in V for Vendetta, if we want to see who is responsible for our situation, we need merely to look in the mirror.

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Sadly, without an education in critical thinking, it is hard for many people today to even understand that they are being lied to, regardless of who is doing the lying.

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Pharmaganda - LOVE it!

Agree on the people realising that they are responsibility for society degrading as to some extent, they consented to it happening.

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Indeed, we all learned just how many people have such vile authoritarian tendencies that are just waiting for the right circumstances to come to the surface. And once we see that, there is no way to unsee that.

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Nov 9, 2022·edited Nov 11, 2022

It seems a type of weakness, a lack of confidence in one's own ability to navigate the world without dependence on some group or other of thugs*. A need to choose a group of thugs to ally with, and to see them as morally kind-of-OK thugs.

In impoverished neighborhoods, the thugs form gangs that prey on the physically weak and coerce the morally weak into joining. In more upscale neighborhoods it's the same thing at a higher trim level, with better budgets to conceal reality with pervasive propaganda.

The gang colors are red and blue in both cases,** which seems interesting, though someone else will have to figure out what that means. As always, maybe I'm just insane, I'm sure many would say so.

* to be clear, the word "thug," as I use it, does not involve skin color. It does involve force and violence, or the threat of that.

** edit: I realize, on reflection, that not *all* criminal gangs divide into red and blue, nor do all bourgeois political parties. I apologize for the broad brush.

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So true, unfortunately.

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They did not conceive a consequence for errors and ommisions so what social contract exists to bind our oppressors to for justice?

Responsibility accepted via confession or Accountability demaded via hounding them down for their crimes.

The choice is simple for the criminals and for humanity's sake - may they reflect on the role they played as a stakeholder of our collective misery.

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Those you describe are the ones who will help get us corralled into ̷c̷o̷n̷c̷e̷n̷t̷r̷a̷t̷i̷o̷n̷ quarantine camps the next time (soon) our ruling class unleashes the next bioweapon upon us all.

These same weak people fail to realize that after their unvaxxed victims have been dispatched, the State will then turn with glee upon these hateful "useful idiots" (as our ruling class likes to call anyone they manipulate into helping them) and exterminate them as well, as they will no longer be needed.

I believe the next plandemic will be very pathogenic, large percentages of the infected will die, and since a lot of people woke up this time 'round, the next bioweapon release is likely to be launched in tandem with that cyber-attack the WEF keeps talking about being inevitable, this will be to take down Internet comms (and likely cell phone comms) from the masses so that reasoning people won't have much reach, and along with it an global economic crash which will help disrupt the food distribution systems, so that the combined effect of contagion, joblessness, and starvation will assure instinctual reflexes/responses over thought and reason, while the ruling class will communicate Hegelian Dialectic "solutions" in localized clusters. Shock & Awe, as they call it, or the Shock Doctrine.

Here's hoping I'm mistaken.

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Nov 3, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

I'm sorry to hear you lost so many supporters during covid. Your post on mob mentality was my introduction to your writing, and I've since enjoyed Sacred Economics beyond measure. It may be small consolation, but you gained a few, as well.

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I started following about a year ago too. It was so good to find this blog and be encouraged that others could see the Covidism problems too and state them so eloquently and with kindness while still speaking the truth.

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I first signed up because of your Covid writings. Thanks you.

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Spot on. As someone terminated for refusing to comply because God clearly directed me to rely on natural immunity (He has never spoken to me more clearly about anything) and my doctor advised against vaccination considering my medical history, I have been thinking a lot about this quest for amnesty. My former employer needs to give back what they took - back pay, Severance, deferred compensation and, yes, damages. My former managers need to apologize. I think of two, my manager and his manager. They both knew this was wrong, they both knew my belief was sincere, they knew I would not be coerced, and they went along. They failed to live up to corporate values or their individual values. They could have done more. All who knew it was wrong but just "went along" could have done more. We must have accountability and restore freedom. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to research, freedom to make your own medical choices, freedom to participate in medical interventions with real informed consent, freedom from coercion. We cannot have freedom without understanding how and why this happened. And I am proud that I followed by beliefs and values and fought for freedom when faced with tyranny.

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Thank you for being brave and having the courage of your convictions.

How and why did this happen? The revelation of that by those who colluded in the injustice is the basic condition for any kind of amnesty.

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In some cases, following contrition, amnesty and forgiveness can do us all some good, but these voices must be stripped of their public influence.

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That is the point of disclosure and transparency. When the profound betrayal of public trust is exposed, people will not easily trust the "journalists", public officials, scientific institutions, etc. again. They will effectively be banned from positions of influence.

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To be honest, I'm not even sure how to assure those (including the media) who impacted our lives so negatively, can be prevented from doing the same things again, but I believe strongly that any reconciliation must include their recognition of this requirement.

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agreed. Maybe instead of a blue check mark on Twitter, they can have a red "x" mark? - only semi-humorous suggestion there.

Personally I think they should be barred from working in journalism, govt, academia ever again.

Or compelled by a court, that in exchange for suspended 10 year jail sentence, they get to interview and write about all the people that they harmed.

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Nov 4, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

I believe this request for amnesty is a clear expression of putting the cart before the horse. In a country that is STILL harming it's own with the most righteous and cavalier attitude, it's WAY premature to forgive.

One of my 2 year old patients was brought in for eczema, which is mostly resolved via homeopathy. The parent mentioned she's getting her second covid jab in a few days. I incredulously asked "I didn't know they were giving these shots for 2 year olds!" He then informed me that it's a policy so the family can keep their green card. I warned them of my concerns, but they are planning on giving her the next shot.

There are still thousands - perhaps 10's of thousands of students, government workers, medical workers who are being coerced to take yet another booster. The harms are continuing ad nauseam with nary an apology - or even an admission of wrong doing - in sight.

In addition, it strains the imagination that those who perpetrated these wrongs will EVER cop to it - even a shred of it. We are talking about MILLIONS harmed by the jab and who knows how many died unnecessarily on a vent in our country alone.

To my mind, the sheer scale of the crimes makes the idea of amnesty incredibly unlikely. And that simply because how the fuck are these folks EVER going to come to terms with what they've done?

I hope I'm wrong. But I simply can't cogitate how folks can ever develop the maturity necessary to make amends for their sundry transgressions.

I suspect with the shitstorm coming from the inexorable tanking economy, the inevitable crashing of the medical industrial complex, the flood of spike protein harmed, it'll be all we can do to just survive what's coming.

I love what Charles is saying, that essentially forgiveness sure, but own up first. In other words, forgiveness/amnesty is conditional upon reasonable willingness to own up to egregious transgressions and to make them right. His list of requirements that need to happen prior to amnesty is spot on. However, I sort of think his list - though right and a minimum, is just not going to happen. This especially given that the harms are continuing unabated.

I certainly don't know how this is all going to play out. But I suspect we're about to hit a chaos that we've never known in this country, and other countries may even be worse. I suspect the mélange of existential harms we've been ignoring are in the process of unwinding. We're going to have a lot on our hands in the coming years that won't be pretty. So likely, the forces of evil will NOT be penetrated and healed. Hope I'm wrong, and happy to change my tune. But I just don't see these folks owning up, which makes amnesty pretty near impossible.

Peace

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That anecdote about the 2-year-old breaks my heart.

It does seem unlikely that the conditions for amnesty I lay out will ever be met. Yet, such a change of heart does happen sometimes. Sometimes people do own up to their complicity in atrocities. I think we can learn something from the Truth & Reconciliation committees in Rwanda after the genocide. They choose neither to pretend it never happened, nor to instigate an equally bloody wave of vengeful counterviolence. They chose a third way. Not perfectly, but we can learn from it. Truth AND Reconciliation. Without the former, the latter cannot happen either.

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I forget who it was, but somebody within the last few years pointed out that you can't talk about healing while the knife is still in the wound.

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I LOVE that you hold that space. I've seen miracles and I know too there is grace. However, as a mind identified being, my mind looks around and sees the BS and just can't see a credible way out.

But yes, this whole morass could itself be the impetus to break the world's heart such that it can't go back to it's familiar atrocities. All there is left to do is to be fully engaged, play our roles and watch what the collective does.

Peace

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Tim, this is great. I'm right there with you. I refer to a year ago when my Mom and I were yelling at each other in the street in front of my house because she told me our kids couldn't come to see her anymore if they weren't vaccinated. I was like "we'll I guess you'll never see them again." In some ways this was a microcosm of all the existential pain and family destruction across the board that this madness caused. I write for Brownstone and worry that I'll be cancelled or even fired from my job for my writings and I'm a public librarian. This is how badly this madness has seeped into our cultural institutions and how much hate there is still being extended toward Covid dissidents. Literally, amnesty can't be offered because we are still in the midst of this.

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She has not apologized. As far as I can tell she still follows the sCiEnCe. Our relationship, but even more tragically, the loving relationship she used to have with my daughters, is almost non-existent. She grudgingly let us into her house again, but my girls don't even want to go anymore. I'd actually moved to this town to bring up my kids near my parents, because I thought it would be so meaningful to them, but this has been almost completely destroyed. I almost got a job on the border of Jefferson/Park County this summer--red libertarian territory if there if ever was one--but I didn't want to pay 600,000 for a trailer and an acre that was going to probably get burned out anyway. We are trying to patch things up, but things will never be the same. I feel as though she has been completely ruined by Covid--she had health anxiety as it was. So--I'm in pretty much the same boat as you.

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I feel so much of this! What's odd about my Mom is that she was once a devotee of obscure anarchist philosophers and a real renegade--people like Ivan Illich, Paul Goodman. My Dad was a libertarian and was involved in a movement of Michigan State graduate students in political science who helped start the Libertarian Party. As the New Left started creeping into journalism and becoming more corporate, she evolved as well, and now almost completely is sold on the Democrat Party. My Dad abandoned any conservatism after Trump was elected. Tragically, they now listen to NPR as gospel and read the NY Times religiously. I feel like I have almost zero in common with them anymore, even as someone who used to tangentially be on the left at one time. I can't talk politics, can't talk about health, can't even discuss the family situation, which is horribly fraught now. They are exemplary "followers" and are the exact demographic that was terrified into being total sheep by Covid. Disappointing doesn't even begin describe how this has all played out.

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She really shouldn’t have to. Sure you were right, but it was a fluke. You were right for the wrong reasons. You were prescient. IE you guessed right. Because prescient, means pre-scient(ific).

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I disagree. This Covid hysteria was all so obviously a sham and full on psy ops from about late March of 2020. The data was very clear already: those dying were deeply infirm and very aged. Most of the rest could go about their lives.

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I do know that I was right for the right reasons. I went to the CDC's website and read their papers. Note the operative word here is I READ their papers. If you actually read most papers today, you will find that the conclusions don't match the data in the body of the paper and the media reports support the conclusion narrative. If a paper does not support the narrative, it is either ignored or vilified. Read what the inventor of the PCR test saysabout it. Then match that up with what we were told about the PCR test for covid19. It cannot diagnose for covid19, it can only tell that at one time a person was exposed to the spike protein.So a positive (or false positive - and there were many of those because of of the number of cycles used were way toomany for the test) only indicated that at some time in the past, the person had had covid19 or the flu or even the common cold (that is the corona virus based ones). Then their narrative became that you had all the cases of symptomless carriers (remember - false positive) that were spreading covid when nothing could be further than the truth. Again, actually read the papers and not the synopsis or the reports in the press.

The harm being done goes far beyond covid. Start reading scientific papers in other fields. The same thing is happening in other fields.

Those who knew the "science" was deliberately false should be held criminally responsible. Those who went along should be required to acknowledge their culpability or also be held as responsible as those who knew what they were doing (whatever their motives).

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I appreciate the words of those who speak the deep feelings many of us have. So thank you for taking the time to spill your guts, because they are also my guts!!

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I should have known that while spending hours absorbing the most recent Covid mishagas deep wisdom would come from you. Not that the other writers and thinkers I adore haven’t nourished my desire for info and some understanding about wtf is going on. But you add some ferocity that manages to be grounded in love and genuine care. I’m so grateful.

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Thank you for seeing that.

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Remdesivir is straight up mass murder. I don't see Fauci ever admitting that. And that is a lot of complicity of nurses and doctors all over America. I do not expect such are going to willingly apologize. This can not continue, but as far as I know it is still being used for critical patients.

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Yes, it is mass murder.

I concur that it is unlikely that many of them will willingly apologize. Some are just too deep into it. But my point is that we can hold open that invitation and possibility. There are many who will probably go to their graves justifying themselves. But there are also many who harbor misgivings. If some of them accept the amnesty offer, then their revelations will blow the whole thing open. remember, I am not talking about blanket, unconditional amnesty.

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Indeed. There can be no amnesty without some form or accountability that is also a reckoning. As long as the current power arrangement remains in power, few inside will risk the career assassination. So yes, amnesty and support for those who turn against it. The Oster piece clearly showed, and one recently from the LA Times, they will do it again and worse if we do not end the possibility of it.

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How is remdesivir a mass murder? Can you link me to resources regarding this claim please?

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Remdesivir is a failed ebola drug they stopped using because it causes renal and kidney failure and proved to hasten death in some users. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine were showing promise against covid, Anthony Fauci stepped in just as he had during AIDS with AZT, and declared that the only recommended drug would be Remdesivir, while instructing his media acloytes to defame I&H, with the help of the FDA. Remdesivir is also quite expensive, at around $2000 per course. So the practice was and continues to be, go home until you turn blue, and then when you are practically on life support, give you a drug that causes renal and kidney failure. It has been described as "finishing them off." The FDA recommends it for children as little as 28 days old.

In part it is the toxicity, but indirectly it is not using Ivermectin & Hcq in favor of Remdesivir that is the mass murder. https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/new-ivermectin-study-same-70-reduction

Here is Pierre Kory, fairly clear that Remdesivir is at best of no use against covid, at worst it is quite toxic and harmful. https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/my-realclear-markets-op-ed-on-how

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Right, I remember reading clinical trials on Ivermectin and being shocked that it wasn't being used. I'm grateful no one in my family was given remdesivir.

Thanks for the thorough answer, it's much appreciated.

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Eisenstein for President or Chief Minister of Making Sense and Critical Thinking!! 😁

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This is clearly and simply stated. Thanks, Charles!

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Transitional justice is always fraught. It can only begin once the violence has stopped. As we speak, the genocide is ongoing. Gates, Pfizer, WEF, WHO, the White House, CNN still believe that the iatrogenocide is necessary and good. None of your, "I will support amnesty when" conditions will ever be met. So what then? The pathologies run so deep right now.

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Realistically, you are right, most will not be met. But perhaps some will, at least by some people. There are those deep in the bowels of the system who have misgivings. There are people who were full-on Covidians and vax cheerleaders who have changed their minds and apologized. It is not impossible, especially if we maintain a generous willingness to forgive those who are willing to look into their complicity.

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I agree completely. Let's all commit to doing what we can to make sure this never happens again.

Oster's article sure has got us talking! I love that.

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Nov 4, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

I hear you Charles. Thank you! I hope the Emily Osters do as well. Also, amnesty when universities and other places remove their vaccine requirements for attendance. When virtue signaling is not connected to a vaccine.

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There is zero chance the Emily Osters of the world are "hearing" the response to her amnesty article.

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Yes. Many universities are still pushing these things. Many unvaccinated are still out of work.

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This seems truly weird, as "the science" now openly says, and has for some time, that the shots don't stop transmission, so there is *zero* public health reason to get one.

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Nov 4, 2022Liked by Charles Eisenstein

Dear Charles, I have appreciated your calm, kind, wise, open-hearted, and even poetic commentary on the covid nightmare since the beginning. (I admit that I was predisposed to paying attention to and seeking out your writings on the same, as I've been following your work for years.) I quite agree with everything you've put forth in this article. Although more and more people around the world are becoming aware of the whys and hows of the nightmare, most of the people in my life (some have PhDs, the rest are college graduates or spent a year or more pursuing postsecondary studies) continue to get "boosters" and have resigned themselves to accept whatever employers and other authorities assert is good for them and their kids and grandchildren. They continue to avoid writings and interviews of MDs, epidemiologists, other types of scientists, people whose health has been damaged by, and even those who lost loved ones to, the "vaccines", attorneys, activists, wisdom teachers, podcasters, and journalists who question the prevailing institutional narrative as all of these are untrustworthy, fringe, misled, misinformed, loco, conspiracy theorists, communists, or whatever. Sigh. I do believe, despite all, that the overmind and heart, the armature of that "more beautiful world" is aborning, coalescing in the silent (light-filled) liminal spaces everywhere. Countless millions of us worldwide are feeling it, dreaming it, smiling in anticipation.

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Beautifully said

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Are the scientific questions around such things as the effectiveness/ineffectiveness of "masks" and social distancing (etc.) truly and fully established?

I can say this. I fled. I fled the propaganda war raging on all sides, the hatred, contempt and supposed certainty held by the vociferous and angry on all sides. I fled the scene. I saw little actual reasoning on all sides of the Covid Wars. For taking an open-minded approach, for listening to "both sides" (I assure you, there were more than two sides, so I'm using "both" with irony), I was severely castigated by all sides. For referencing scientific papers I was castigated. For not referencing them I was roasted on a pit. Everyone wanted me to walk on red hot coals or to be burned at the stake. So I fled. And now ... am I to believe ... there is something settled? Some sort of social consensus? Really? I haven't been paying any attention. You can imagine why, if you were not among those flinging stones at me.

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Yes, the answers to whether masking and distancing were efficacious, were known well before 2020. Healthy skepticism, and a good dose of independent courage, led many of us to research these subjects and subsequently follow the contemporary studies.

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So where's the research?

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There was research (published) on the inefficacy of masks against viruses. At the beginning of the mask mandates I sourced (regrettably did not download at the time) documentation on the CDC website citing studies about how they are only effective against bacteria (larger in size than viral particles). Three months later when I checked again to show someone (because we were all still being forced to wear masks), they had removed the documentation and put up garbage about how masks were good for the Covid virus. Also, when I was studying science in university we had learned at the time that masks were ineffective against viruses.

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Yes, I remember folks saying that masks could not possibly slow the spread of the virus on the basis of the fact that the 'pores' in the masks (even the good masks) were too large to prevent a virus from passing through. I pointed out that the counterargument was that the viruses are generally suspended in 'droplets' of bodily fluids which were too large to pass through those same pores. But this was not considered relevant.

I kept my mind open, anyway. If I learned anything from the Covid Wars it was to keep my mind open.

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The theory that this respiratory virus was suspended in droplets was abandoned mid 2020. Worth noting is that the news sources you relied upon failed utterly to inform you of this update.

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Use the wayback machine to find old versions of web pages - go to http://web.archive.org

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Thankyou. I hadn't heard the virus vs bacteria argument before, that makes sense to me. I've found this heavily referenced article here that backs up the argument you're making: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

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Seek and ye shall find.

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I found that the PANDA website (www.panda.org) was a brilliant resource for compilation of research on all things Covid.

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In which I provide some background context for the perplexity the Covid Wars put me through, using "biosolids" ("science") as a backdrop.

https://rword.substack.com/p/the-energy-transition-narrative

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Nov 14, 2022·edited Nov 14, 2022

Keeping in mind that the recent enshrinement of "peer reviewed studies" as the sacrosanct manifestation of the irrefutable Truth™ is just the latest form of mass control Mr. Global came up with… (We never used double blind studies to figure out if parachutes worked.) It is still pretty easy to find out for yourself what The Science™ actually says on masks (if staying in a closed room with five people smoking cigarettes is not enough to convince you that cloth masks don't stop squat). I've compiled some resources here, for when my friends ask me about it:

https://vegantiger.substack.com/p/taking-the-mask-off

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YES. YES. YES. Thank you Charles. Thank you. I hope you directly post this as a comment on Oster's Atlantic article! I hope this article is distributed as FAR and WIDE as The Coronation. THIS PIECE is the voice of Charles Eisenstein that accompanies the choirs of angels singing in high holy praise. This voice is the one that makes mountains tremble with joy. I bow in gratitude.

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Thanks. she is not likely to read it, nor is The Atlantic likely to accept it as a comment. But maybe it will reach her, or people who think like her, somehow.

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