With all do respect. The DNC just dismisses the democratic process. That is also a way to end Democracy without saying it out loud. The candidate for prez was not elected. They take the Green party and RFK Jr campaigns to court in many states as an attempt to keep them off the ballot or at least drain their very minimal campaign funds. No bueno for democracy!!
I'm sure that's all true, and we could add what they did to Bernie too. But they could actually lose this election and not be in power any more. If DT is telling the truth (unusual for him, admittedly) there won't be any more elections. That's a fairly stark contrast.
Yes, and such discernments are extremely important in order to avert the disaster that would be a second Trump term. I'm sure Hitler's political opponents had their flaws and were corrupt in their own way, but perhaps the world could have averted disaster if the people of Germany had voted pragmatically for his opponents in spite of their flaws. Everything that you say about taking third parties to court, Robin, has been happening for decades, and both major parties are guilty of it. That doesn't make it right, but we have to understand that the Republicans (even under Trump) are guilty of the exact same thing. It is a corruption of the system that is longstanding. Still, I would rather preserve the status quo for now and try to address that later, than plunge the world into the kind of chaos and instability that Trump would almost certainly unleash in the name of his own ego trip.
Exactly. Jamie Wheal has described it as 'which side will at least allow the infinite game to continue?' The Dems are massively flawed but at least they are currently still in favour of some kind of democracy continuing, which means they can be put under pressure to get better. Once you scrap elections, it gets a lot more difficult to put any pressure on the party now permanently in power. I think people don't quite realise how much it changes things to no longer live in a democracy and I hope US citizens don't ever have to find out.
I know, now, that it has been happening for decades. I didn't know back then. That doesn't make it better. I don't like Trump at all. But I really don't see him as Hitler. That is certainly one of the points of Charles's article. Personally I think he's a reactive cry baby. And the more blows he receives the more reactive and more unpredictable he becomes. Anyway. The point is, we already don't live in a democracy.
There are many concerns about the Dems, yes. But only one side has claimed they are going to end democracy
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/politics/trump-votes-christians.html
With all do respect. The DNC just dismisses the democratic process. That is also a way to end Democracy without saying it out loud. The candidate for prez was not elected. They take the Green party and RFK Jr campaigns to court in many states as an attempt to keep them off the ballot or at least drain their very minimal campaign funds. No bueno for democracy!!
Here are some examples of Republican state officials blocking ballot access to third party candidates. https://www.daily-jeff.com/story/news/2016/12/23/libertarians-sue-ohio-elections-chief/18928027007/ https://apnews.com/general-news-91f7a24ad2a14f7da2e3a3036998d37f https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/16-6107/16-6107-2016-08-26.html
I have no doubt that both sides have done this. Sort of is my point. I don't actually think one side is better than the other.
I'm sure that's all true, and we could add what they did to Bernie too. But they could actually lose this election and not be in power any more. If DT is telling the truth (unusual for him, admittedly) there won't be any more elections. That's a fairly stark contrast.
Yes, and such discernments are extremely important in order to avert the disaster that would be a second Trump term. I'm sure Hitler's political opponents had their flaws and were corrupt in their own way, but perhaps the world could have averted disaster if the people of Germany had voted pragmatically for his opponents in spite of their flaws. Everything that you say about taking third parties to court, Robin, has been happening for decades, and both major parties are guilty of it. That doesn't make it right, but we have to understand that the Republicans (even under Trump) are guilty of the exact same thing. It is a corruption of the system that is longstanding. Still, I would rather preserve the status quo for now and try to address that later, than plunge the world into the kind of chaos and instability that Trump would almost certainly unleash in the name of his own ego trip.
Exactly. Jamie Wheal has described it as 'which side will at least allow the infinite game to continue?' The Dems are massively flawed but at least they are currently still in favour of some kind of democracy continuing, which means they can be put under pressure to get better. Once you scrap elections, it gets a lot more difficult to put any pressure on the party now permanently in power. I think people don't quite realise how much it changes things to no longer live in a democracy and I hope US citizens don't ever have to find out.
I know, now, that it has been happening for decades. I didn't know back then. That doesn't make it better. I don't like Trump at all. But I really don't see him as Hitler. That is certainly one of the points of Charles's article. Personally I think he's a reactive cry baby. And the more blows he receives the more reactive and more unpredictable he becomes. Anyway. The point is, we already don't live in a democracy.
With all due respect:)